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Tell HN: I De-Googled Myself

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Re: Tell HN: I De-Googled Myself

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I liked it until the part about paying for yt. I prefer to not use yt again than to pay for it and make google even richer

I agree, but it's quite hard not to pay for YouTube when you have kids and they watch it on television.

It’s very easy to get kids to break habits.

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I liked it until the part about paying for yt. I prefer to not use yt again than to pay for it and make google even richer

I agree, but it's quite hard not to pay for YouTube when you have kids and they watch it on television.

With streaming balkanized into so many individual providers, it's hard to pay for more than a couple.

So the Grandson has learned to discriminate ads from content, and as soon as an ad comes one, we all chorus, "Stinky Ad!" and then everyone rushes to be the first person to get to the remote and skip it.

It's not a perfect solution, but it's what we have.

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How did you degoogle Android?

I'm using GrapheneOS - very simple to setup. Only actual downside is it only works on pixel devices currently

That doesn’t feel very de-Googled, when it’s using an OS that was built by Google on hardware made by Google. Sure it removes their services and adds some security/privacy, but it still adds to Google’s power by giving marketshare to both their mobile OS and mobile hardware.

Re: Tell HN: I De-Googled Myself

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> Apple Photos (which is also not a nice company, none of them really are)

There are entities that provide services that are nice, which actually value your privacy, are possibly non profit, based on free software.

Of course it's rarely gratis, sometimes it's less smooth, but hey, at least you avoid the villains.

See for instance https://www.chatons.org/

Or you could self host (of course that costs time and you need to have a strong backup strategy... but on the other hand you should also backup what you host at the gafam, you never know when they decide to lock you out for some reason).

It's kinda sad to flee from one gafam just to trap yourself in another one. However, congrats for your successful degoogling!

Re: Tell HN: I De-Googled Myself

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I'm using GrapheneOS - very simple to setup. Only actual downside is it only works on pixel devices currently

That doesn’t feel very de-Googled, when it’s using an OS that was built by Google on hardware made by Google. Sure it removes their services and adds some security/privacy, but it still adds to Google’s power by giving marketshare to both their mobile OS and mobile hardware.

It's uniquely hard to get rid of Android (when you don't consider iOS as an option, because possibly the remedy would be worse than the issue). A degoogled Android is already a good step.

I'm as little reliant on proprietary services as possible and I'll jump to Linux mobile (having used a pinephone for one year as my main phone, I know it'll be comfortable for me) when a convincing phone that's not very expensive given the outdated hardware it has and that doesn't rely on an Android base can run it smoothly enough, but that phone doesn't exist yet.

Alternatives include not having a smartphone but the network effect and the expectations on you having one are quite strong.

The Fairphone 5 I have is very close to run PostmarketOS well, I have hope but for now few but critical features are missing.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm using GrapheneOS - very simple to setup. Only actual downside is it only works on pixel devices currently

That doesn’t feel very de-Googled, when it’s using an OS that was built by Google on hardware made by Google. Sure it removes their services and adds some security/privacy, but it still adds to Google’s power by giving marketshare to both their mobile OS and mobile hardware.

> it removes their services and adds some security/privacy

that to me is what de-Googling is. I'm not trying to hurt their marketshare.

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I liked it until the part about paying for yt. I prefer to not use yt again than to pay for it and make google even richer

I agree, but it's quite hard not to pay for YouTube when you have kids and they watch it on television.

Rip with yt-dlp into Plex or Jellyfin server.

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I liked it until the part about paying for yt. I prefer to not use yt again than to pay for it and make google even richer

I agree, but it's quite hard not to pay for YouTube when you have kids and they watch it on television.

Here a potential “nice” lesson: teach them to leave behind something they like. Now, that takes something (even for adults)

Re: Tell HN: I De-Googled Myself

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but it's quite hard not to pay for YouTube when you have kids and they watch it on television.

With streaming balkanized into so many individual providers, it's hard to pay for more than a couple. So the Grandson has learned to discriminate ads from content, and as soon as an ad comes one, we all chorus, "Stinky Ad!" and then everyone rushes to be the first person to get to the remote and skip it. It's not a perfect solution, but it's what we have.

You could also pay for Premium, it's very good value for money.
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