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My burner email blocklist blocked me

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Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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Post by T0Bi »

eloisius wrote: post #3
gruez wrote: post #2

Reminder that apple provides burner emails that are effectively unblockable (because they use the @icloud.com domain, at least for now[1]), for $0.99/month. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48559935

$50/year and Fastmail will let you alias anything@yourdomain.com to your inbox. I use a different email for every company or website I interact with, so I know who spams me.

My domain at Hetzner including mail costs less than 20€/year and all emails to @mydomain.com which are not part of predefined mailboxes land in my catchall@mydomain.com mailbox.

Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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Post by thenewnewguy »

The article author attemps to make a distintion between "burners" and "aliases" but I don't believe one exists for this usecase. Let's say for the sake of argument that you think blocking burner emails provides meaningful protection (I don't, but services using such a list obviously do). From your perspective, an "alias" is the same as a "burner". Both can be easily generated in bulk by a human or bots, cannot be resolved to an identity, and cannot be compared to determine if two emails are the same person.

Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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Post by [deleted] »

teddyh wrote: post #9
CharlesW wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple (like any email provider that conforms to RFC 2822) supports plus addresses as well.

Are you implying that plus addresses are part of RFC 2822? Because they aren’t. AFAIK, no RFC documents specify the plus address convention. The RFCs merely specify that, in an email address, whatever is to the left of the @ sign is to be interpreted by the receiving system, and nobody else should make any assumptions about any of it, and certainly never alter it. And also that the + character is one of the many perm…

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Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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Post by hoppyhoppy2 »

eloisius wrote: post #3
gruez wrote: post #2

Reminder that apple provides burner emails that are effectively unblockable (because they use the @icloud.com domain, at least for now[1]), for $0.99/month. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48559935

$50/year and Fastmail will let you alias anything@yourdomain.com to your inbox. I use a different email for every company or website I interact with, so I know who spams me.

Fastmail costs $60/year now, at least for new signups

Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

#16

Post by MarioMan »

eloisius wrote: post #3
gruez wrote: post #2

Reminder that apple provides burner emails that are effectively unblockable (because they use the @icloud.com domain, at least for now[1]), for $0.99/month. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48559935

$50/year and Fastmail will let you alias anything@yourdomain.com to your inbox. I use a different email for every company or website I interact with, so I know who spams me.

Cloudflare offers this for free as well.

Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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Post by rz2k »

eloisius wrote: post #3
gruez wrote: post #2

Reminder that apple provides burner emails that are effectively unblockable (because they use the @icloud.com domain, at least for now[1]), for $0.99/month. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48559935

$50/year and Fastmail will let you alias anything@yourdomain.com to your inbox. I use a different email for every company or website I interact with, so I know who spams me.

I’ve surprisingly found that I have started to have to use mydomain.com with Fastmail. Sometimes banks used for a business account, or accounts at b2b companies don’t treat fastmail.com as a large email provider, and otherwise try to associate me with other fastmail customers as though we are colleagues at Fastmail.

Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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Post by john_strinlai »

teddyh wrote: post #9
CharlesW wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple (like any email provider that conforms to RFC 2822) supports plus addresses as well.

Are you implying that plus addresses are part of RFC 2822? Because they aren’t. AFAIK, no RFC documents specify the plus address convention. The RFCs merely specify that, in an email address, whatever is to the left of the @ sign is to be interpreted by the receiving system, and nobody else should make any assumptions about any of it, and certainly never alter it. And also that the + character is one of the many perm…

its talked about in a proposed standard, at least.

https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc5233/

Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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Post by CharlesW »

teddyh wrote: post #9
CharlesW wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple (like any email provider that conforms to RFC 2822) supports plus addresses as well.

Are you implying that plus addresses are part of RFC 2822? Because they aren’t. AFAIK, no RFC documents specify the plus address convention. The RFCs merely specify that, in an email address, whatever is to the left of the @ sign is to be interpreted by the receiving system, and nobody else should make any assumptions about any of it, and certainly never alter it. And also that the + character is one of the many perm…

TIL, thanks!

Re: My burner email blocklist blocked me

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Post by Normal_gaussian »

rz2k wrote: post #17
eloisius wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$50/year and Fastmail will let you alias anything@yourdomain.com to your inbox. I use a different email for every company or website I interact with, so I know who spams me.

I’ve surprisingly found that I have started to have to use mydomain.com with Fastmail. Sometimes banks used for a business account, or accounts at b2b companies don’t treat fastmail.com as a large email provider, and otherwise try to associate me with other fastmail customers as though we are colleagues at Fastmail.

This is genuinely hilarious. Are you able to elaborate? Which banks? Which B2B? There is probably a shared product stack here that is making some hilariously poor decisions.
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