Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sure someone in the ad industry will tell you that the internet is powered by ad revenue, it's what keeps it free and open, what makes services better.
I'm not in the advertising business, but people want free shit and don't want to pay for it. How do you suggest it get paid for if not advertising?
Tracking unique visitors without cookies
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#12Otherwise it'd be so blatant loophole, you can only use cookies for their intended purposes and not reuse for them other purposes. I remember some details when i needed a way to prioritize user traffic via cookies, since lots malicous traffic dont have cookie storage, as long i didnt retain the cookie ID used for load balancing, as all information would be lost on reboot of haproxy process. I didnt need cookie prompt, but if i also used that for other purposes like visitor tracking, then I'd need cookie prompt even before setting the cookie.
Im not lawyer, but thats how I understood.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sure someone in the ad industry will tell you that the internet is powered by ad revenue, it's what keeps it free and open, what makes services better.
I thought the internet was powered by paying your ISPs bill
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#14Next up: Stabbing people without a knife. If you are tracking people without a lawful basis (e.g. consent), you are violating the GDPR. It doesn't matter if you use cookies. (The article does mention this towards the end.)
"This buys you nothing. Article 5(3) of the ePrivacy Directive".
They clearly have a product to sell but the article seems balanced and offers a good list of commonly used/proposed techniques that are not quite compliant.
As you alluded, there're more lawful basis than consent, one of most common ones being technical necessity to mitigate abuse.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sure someone in the ad industry will tell you that the internet is powered by ad revenue, it's what keeps it free and open, what makes services better.
I'm not in the advertising business, but people want free shit and don't want to pay for it. How do you suggest it get paid for if not advertising?
How many fields obscure the form of payment, the amounts, the methods when you purchase a good or service? You're oversimplifying and glossing over the real issues.
If it was as simple as "you must pay" and nothing else mattered, then any form of payment would be justifiable.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
I thought the internet was powered by paying your ISPs bill
It's powered by paying your ISPs bills as much as the restaurant bill is paid by what you spent in car/public-transport commute to the restaurant.
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#17Next up: Stabbing people without a knife. If you are tracking people without a lawful basis (e.g. consent), you are violating the GDPR. It doesn't matter if you use cookies. (The article does mention this towards the end.)
It's not (just) GDPR and TFA mentions that as soon as they move on from Cookies, ie point 2 on local storage: "This buys you nothing. Article 5(3) of the ePrivacy Directive". They clearly have a product to sell but the article seems balanced and offers a good list of commonly used/proposed techniques that are not quite compliant. As you alluded, there're more lawful basis than consent, one of most common ones being t…
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#18I think the blog author is misinformed about the session id? If you use that for marketing purposes, you need cookie prompt. The GDRP says only necassary cookies, if you also reuse the login cookies for purposes. It's not longer necassary right? Otherwise it'd be so blatant loophole, you can only use cookies for their intended purposes and not reuse for them other purposes. I remember some details when i needed a way…
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#19This zero-entropy cookie cannot be linked to a specific person and would not require consent under any privacy law I think.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not in the advertising business, but people want free shit and don't want to pay for it. How do you suggest it get paid for if not advertising?
Constant tracking isn't necessary for advertising, it's a choice. So is hiding the extent of this tracking from the user. If the user doesn't understand the full scope and impact of the "payment" then the business model is akin to loansharking. Those people also take the deal without realizing it will cost them a finger. How many fields obscure the form of payment, the amounts, the methods when you purchase a good or…
At the same time, if you have ever been in certain neighbourhoods, you personally might feel really grateful for keeping this setting on; a few hours, or days, in some places can send you ads that'll change your ad profile SO much for SO long, it'll drive you crazy if you aren't careful, or at least make you annoyed and regret it.
Personally, I prefer variety in my ads, and not to be profiled, but there are times I specifically and expressly choose tracking for ads.