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A verification loop 4x'd DeepSeek's intelligence, matching Opus at 1/7 the cost

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Re: A verification loop 4x'd DeepSeek's intelligence, matching Opus at 1/7 the cost

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Post by scotty79 »

_aavaa_ wrote: post #6
sozal wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair on the length. The verification loop took DeepSeek from ~20 to ~80 on Web-Bench, matching Opus at ~7x less cost. Curious if the method holds up for you.

Well I don’t know what the method is, there’s a mention of ironbee, but I’m not willing to spend the time digging through this to figure out what’s needed and how to set it up.

> I’m not willing to spend the time digging through this to figure out what’s needed

That's the neat part. You don't... need to do this yourself nowadays. AI agent is perfectly capable to figure out any new open source thing that pops up daily now. You can just give it the link to the repo and say "Set this up for me. I wanna play with it."

Re: A verification loop 4x'd DeepSeek's intelligence, matching Opus at 1/7 the cost

#12

Post by verdverm »

scotty79 wrote: post #11
_aavaa_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well I don’t know what the method is, there’s a mention of ironbee, but I’m not willing to spend the time digging through this to figure out what’s needed and how to set it up.

> I’m not willing to spend the time digging through this to figure out what’s needed That's the neat part. You don't... need to do this yourself nowadays. AI agent is perfectly capable to figure out any new open source thing that pops up daily now. You can just give it the link to the repo and say "Set this up for me. I wanna play with it."

until you realize people are putting malicous instructions in the projects now, at least a few anti-Ai coders see this as an act of defiance

Re: A verification loop 4x'd DeepSeek's intelligence, matching Opus at 1/7 the cost

#13

Post by _aavaa_ »

alexgoodhart wrote: post #9
_aavaa_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well I don’t know what the method is, there’s a mention of ironbee, but I’m not willing to spend the time digging through this to figure out what’s needed and how to set it up.

You could literally send it to an ai

Or the people writing this could spend more effort to make it not slop. If they can’t be bothered, I won’t waste my time figuring out if this is worth it, there’s are 1000 other articles to read and techniques to try.

And if this is worth a look, I’m sure I’ll hear about it again from someone who wrote it better.

Re: A verification loop 4x'd DeepSeek's intelligence, matching Opus at 1/7 the cost

#14

Post by sozal »

_aavaa_ wrote: post #13
alexgoodhart wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could literally send it to an ai

Or the people writing this could spend more effort to make it not slop. If they can’t be bothered, I won’t waste my time figuring out if this is worth it, there’s are 1000 other articles to read and techniques to try. And if this is worth a look, I’m sure I’ll hear about it again from someone who wrote it better.

Or just don't read the blog post and stop posting your slop here so everyone will be happy

Re: A verification loop 4x'd DeepSeek's intelligence, matching Opus at 1/7 the cost

#15

Post by neetle »

sozal wrote: post #14
_aavaa_ wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or the people writing this could spend more effort to make it not slop. If they can’t be bothered, I won’t waste my time figuring out if this is worth it, there’s are 1000 other articles to read and techniques to try. And if this is worth a look, I’m sure I’ll hear about it again from someone who wrote it better.

Or just don't read the blog post and stop posting your slop here so everyone will be happy

Expressing some frustration with the authors lack of consideration when announcing something is fairly natural, tbh.

Posts like this break the social contract, and honestly show a lack of both care and consideration for communicating the subject matter AND a flagrant disrespect for anyone who would consume this.

I’m sure there are some good ideas here, but it’s hard to sift through the lack of applied ai and lack of communication skills to get to them

Re: A verification loop 4x'd DeepSeek's intelligence, matching Opus at 1/7 the cost

#16

Post by [deleted] »

sozal wrote: post #14
_aavaa_ wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or the people writing this could spend more effort to make it not slop. If they can’t be bothered, I won’t waste my time figuring out if this is worth it, there’s are 1000 other articles to read and techniques to try. And if this is worth a look, I’m sure I’ll hear about it again from someone who wrote it better.

Or just don't read the blog post and stop posting your slop here so everyone will be happy

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Re: A verification loop 4x'd DeepSeek's intelligence, matching Opus at 1/7 the cost

#17

Post by [deleted] »

neetle wrote: post #15
sozal wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or just don't read the blog post and stop posting your slop here so everyone will be happy

Expressing some frustration with the authors lack of consideration when announcing something is fairly natural, tbh. Posts like this break the social contract, and honestly show a lack of both care and consideration for communicating the subject matter AND a flagrant disrespect for anyone who would consume this. I’m sure there are some good ideas here, but it’s hard to sift through the lack of applied ai and lack of…

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Re: A verification loop 4x'd DeepSeek's intelligence, matching Opus at 1/7 the cost

#18

Post by subscribed »

alexgoodhart wrote: post #9
_aavaa_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well I don’t know what the method is, there’s a mention of ironbee, but I’m not willing to spend the time digging through this to figure out what’s needed and how to set it up.

You could literally send it to an ai

Absolutely not.

If someone vomits the slop that must be fed to a robot to make sense of it, even if there's something of value.

It's just so rude, like a professor entering the class, emptying a carton box full of papers on the floor, flipping a bird and leaving without a word.

It's possible there's something good in it.

Re: A verification loop 4x'd DeepSeek's intelligence, matching Opus at 1/7 the cost

#19

Post by sozal »

subscribed wrote: post #18
alexgoodhart wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could literally send it to an ai

Absolutely not. If someone vomits the slop that must be fed to a robot to make sense of it, even if there's something of value. It's just so rude, like a professor entering the class, emptying a carton box full of papers on the floor, flipping a bird and leaving without a word. It's possible there's something good in it.

Zero engagement with anything the post actually says. You've spent more words performing your distaste than it would've taken to read the thing. Recycling slop as a catch all for "I didn't read it" is the real content free contribution here.

Re: A verification loop 4x'd DeepSeek's intelligence, matching Opus at 1/7 the cost

#20

Post by subscribed »

sozal wrote: post #14
_aavaa_ wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or the people writing this could spend more effort to make it not slop. If they can’t be bothered, I won’t waste my time figuring out if this is worth it, there’s are 1000 other articles to read and techniques to try. And if this is worth a look, I’m sure I’ll hear about it again from someone who wrote it better.

Or just don't read the blog post and stop posting your slop here so everyone will be happy

If you can't take a constructive critique of something you posted..... maybe don't post so you'll remain happy?

I hope you can take your own advice?

Take care!

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