If only there were "real" engineers who could answer this question... https://www.hillelwayne.com/tags/crossover-project/
"Software Engineering" Is Not Engineering (2005)
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Re: "Software Engineering" Is Not Engineering (2005)
#12Crypto is not the OG cryptography! GenAI is not the OG AI!
Language is for us, not the other way around. It's common usage changes.
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#13Crypto is not the OG cryptography! GenAI is not the OG AI! Language is for us, not the other way around. It's common usage changes.
Engineering is a regulated term, afaik that’s what underlies the debate, it’s not about whether English has changed.
Re: "Software Engineering" Is Not Engineering (2005)
#14Crypto is not the OG cryptography! GenAI is not the OG AI! Language is for us, not the other way around. It's common usage changes.
Engineering is a regulated term, afaik that’s what underlies the debate, it’s not about whether English has changed.
Engineering is not a regulated term everywhere.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Engineering is a regulated term, afaik that’s what underlies the debate, it’s not about whether English has changed.
Engineering is not a regulated term everywhere.
It many countries it actually is, if you call yourself an engineer professionally without a license you can be heavily fined. Canada, Germany, France..
Re: "Software Engineering" Is Not Engineering (2005)
#16Crypto is not the OG cryptography! GenAI is not the OG AI! Language is for us, not the other way around. It's common usage changes.
Engineering is a regulated term, afaik that’s what underlies the debate, it’s not about whether English has changed.
In my country (France), being an engineer (ingénieur, in French) is regulated but tied to a particular degree (which must be approved by the Commission des titres d'ingénieur), and as such I am legally a software engineer.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Engineering is a regulated term, afaik that’s what underlies the debate, it’s not about whether English has changed.
In my country (France), being an engineer ( ingénieur , in French) is regulated but tied to a particular degree (which must be approved by the Commission des titres d'ingénieur ), and as such I am legally a software engineer .
Same in Poland and I imagine all of other countries in Europe which follow Bologna Process.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Engineering is not a regulated term everywhere.
It many countries it actually is, if you call yourself an engineer professionally without a license you can be heavily fined. Canada, Germany, France..
I don't think you can be fined in France for that. Though I think you'll be fired without compensation or unemployment benefits.
Re: "Software Engineering" Is Not Engineering (2005)
#19Why don’t we just call ourselves programmers and save this semi-regular debate!
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my country (France), being an engineer ( ingénieur , in French) is regulated but tied to a particular degree (which must be approved by the Commission des titres d'ingénieur ), and as such I am legally a software engineer .
Same in Poland and I imagine all of other countries in Europe which follow Bologna Process.
Same in Greece, my degree is an engineering degree and I was enrolled to the engineers' guild when I graduated.