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#12God I feel old. Engineering is about the weight of responsibility you have from the thing that you build. Being knowledgeable and accomplished is a way to reduce that weight because you are confident that you did the correct thing.
This bridge is rated for 10 tons. This chemical process produces 1 mg 99% purity crystals. This biological process produces 90% pure insulin. This circuit handles 1 kA.
Engineering is not about better or worse it is about acceptable or unacceptable.
This naturally results in a desire for requirements so you can meet your guarantees. Specifications so you know what guarantees you need or what you are provided and how those map back to the real responsibility. Standards so you can consistently solve common problems.
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#13Being the most effective slave means you’re still a slave. If you’re trading your time for a corporation you’d be smart to give the least amount of effort for the most amount of return. Sounds bad, but corporations are not your friend and will discard you as such.
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#14Being the most effective slave means you’re still a slave. If you’re trading your time for a corporation you’d be smart to give the least amount of effort for the most amount of return. Sounds bad, but corporations are not your friend and will discard you as such.
Yes, my employer might lay me off or not treat me well. I don't understand why that means I shouldn't still try to get better at software engineering. Isn't that the whole point of the post, that software engineering is a type of craftsmanship intrinsically worthy of honing?
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Yes, my employer might lay me off or not treat me well. I don't understand why that means I shouldn't still try to get better at software engineering. Isn't that the whole point of the post, that software engineering is a type of craftsmanship intrinsically worthy of honing?
On your own projects, absolutely. At work you’re likely limited by Conway’s law or bureaucracy. So yes, you can expend large effort for no real material gain, or you can save that effort for your own projects.
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#17God I feel old. Engineering is about the weight of responsibility you have from the thing that you build. Being knowledgeable and accomplished is a way to reduce that weight because you are confident that you did the correct thing.
I think you are mixing "engineering" with responsibility. You could literally take away "engineering" and put in any other word and it wouldn't mean much at all except just saying 'be responsible'. Yes having more knowledge and accomplishment (experience) in anything in life lets you develop more confidence. Ethicality is different from responsibility though, I think you conflated the two.
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#18God I feel old. Engineering is about the weight of responsibility you have from the thing that you build. Being knowledgeable and accomplished is a way to reduce that weight because you are confident that you did the correct thing.
To add on, engineering is about objective guarantees to meet objective responsibility. This bridge is rated for 10 tons. This chemical process produces 1 mg 99% purity crystals. This biological process produces 90% pure insulin. This circuit handles 1 kA. Engineering is not about better or worse it is about acceptable or unacceptable . This naturally results in a desire for requirements so you can meet your guarantee…
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#19Being the most effective slave means you’re still a slave. If you’re trading your time for a corporation you’d be smart to give the least amount of effort for the most amount of return. Sounds bad, but corporations are not your friend and will discard you as such.
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To add on, engineering is about objective guarantees to meet objective responsibility. This bridge is rated for 10 tons. This chemical process produces 1 mg 99% purity crystals. This biological process produces 90% pure insulin. This circuit handles 1 kA. Engineering is not about better or worse it is about acceptable or unacceptable . This naturally results in a desire for requirements so you can meet your guarantee…
Engineering is most certainly about being better or worse. A key aspect of being an engineer is that you can make conscious trade offs that include time, cost and feasability among others. It's not always a good choice the make the minimal thing that ticks of all the must requirements. In all cases there are unstated requirements that any engineer worth their salty will think and ask about. If you dont the that's how…
I am confused how you got to “make the minimal thing that ticks of [sic] all of the must requirements”. I said engineering was about objective guarantees. Requirements are a derivative and means of that.
Making things better, more efficient, cheaper, etc. is not at odds with that. If you guarantee that level of performance and achieve it, then you have produced a acceptable instance meeting your guarantees. If you fail to meet your guarantees, then you have something unacceptable.
Despite the tolerances of a rocket-quality screw being far better than a car-quality screw being far better than a toy-quality screw, a car-quality screw does not get a pass in rockets because it is “better” than a toy-quality screw. It needs to meet the guarantees.
When you would rather have nothing over something that pretends to meet its guarantees, then you are probably in the vicinity of engineering.