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Re: Latta Java

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Post by voidmain42 »

gregopet wrote: post #9

Personally I would just use SDKMan & generate a Maven or Gradle build profile from a getting started page of Spring, Vert.x, Quarkus (or whatever library/framework your main work will be on).. . Many of them have interactive starter pages where you click all the things you think you will need and download the project that builds with a single command. I don't find Java tooling at all difficult, compared to say Python…

I find that Maven and Gradle are quite complex. Creating a build file for a new project and publishing to Sonatype is extremely difficult.

Certainly those projects are solid, but I think there is a lot of room for improvement, and that's what I'm working on.

Re: Latta Java

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Post by voidmain42 »

Double_a_92 wrote: post #6

Btw, at first sight it's unclear what the scope of this is. It seems to be one project, but then it's actually multiple smaller libraries and "Latte" is just the organisation? Also is the dependency management not it's own project?

It's an ecosystem that includes a number of tools, libraries, etc. The organization (include the GitHub org) is called Latte. Each project is a GH repository under that.

The dependency management system is part of the `cli` tool. And the repository management is the `app` project and published to https://app.lattejava.org.

The `cli` tool is the foundation though. It's how projects start, build, run, release, and publish.

Hope that helps clarify things.

Re: Latta Java

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Post by microflash »

intothemild wrote: post #7

About time. My biggest gripe with Java has always been the tooling ecosystem, almost every java engineer I know solves this with the attitude of "just use intellij". No. I won't, I refuse to use that, and I refuse to give a company money just to use a language as efficiently as other languages. I am very happy to see that there's progress being made here. I wish you the best of luck!

IntelliJ has free open-source distribution so you don’t need to pay anything for using it. To each their own, I guess.

Re: Latta Java

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Post by exabrial »

voidmain42 wrote: post #10
a57721 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like this project tries to replace various battle tested and widely adopted things like sdkman, serialization libs, build systems, HTTP servers and web frameworks. Even if there's something wrong with any existing solution in every category, your scope looks a bit too ambitious, even the biggest frameworks with many contributors don't dare to do and support all of that.

I think that's why other platforms have done so much better than Java. NPM, Python, Ruby, DotNet, etc. They all have dependency management, versioning, publishing, repository management, HTTP, web frameworks, and build tools as one complete ecosystem. Latte's core systems are also battle tested (http, cli, jwt). They are forked from projects I built for FusionAuth, which supports around a billion users and has millio…

FusionAuth out of Denver?

Re: Latta Java

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Post by voidmain42 »

exabrial wrote: post #14
voidmain42 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's why other platforms have done so much better than Java. NPM, Python, Ruby, DotNet, etc. They all have dependency management, versioning, publishing, repository management, HTTP, web frameworks, and build tools as one complete ecosystem. Latte's core systems are also battle tested (http, cli, jwt). They are forked from projects I built for FusionAuth, which supports around a billion users and has millio…

FusionAuth out of Denver?

Yep. Westminster technically.

That's the company I founded. I wrote most of the tools, frameworks, and libraries it uses.

Re: Latta Java

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Post by exabrial »

exabrial wrote: post #14
voidmain42 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's why other platforms have done so much better than Java. NPM, Python, Ruby, DotNet, etc. They all have dependency management, versioning, publishing, repository management, HTTP, web frameworks, and build tools as one complete ecosystem. Latte's core systems are also battle tested (http, cli, jwt). They are forked from projects I built for FusionAuth, which supports around a billion users and has millio…

FusionAuth out of Denver?

can you find me on linked in or github? Love to talk, have a few ideas
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