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This is my attempt to get Vulkan going on NetBSD

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Re: This is my attempt to get Vulkan going on NetBSD

#11

I have never had a need for NetBSD, but in case I ever do, I’m glad it’s there. Especially with Linux deprecating old platforms. This looks like an unofficial effort but hopefully it gets refined and integrated.

NetBSD already has relevant packages officially.

Re: This is my attempt to get Vulkan going on NetBSD

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Installation instructions: ftp https://raw.githubusercontent.com/segaboy/vulkan-netbsd/main/scripts/setup-env.sh !^^^^^! That's... a bit unorthodox. FreeBSD has a `fetch`[1] utility for this, I wasn't aware NetBSD puts that in `ftp`[2]. Interesting choice. I wonder what led to it. [1] https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?fetch [2] https://man.netbsd.org/ftp.1

Oldest supported machine for NetBSD is VAX 780 from 1978(!!!). One of the first system supporting mmu, 32 bit cpu, virtual memory etc etc This machine is so slow that it takes a lot of time to generate ssh keys etc. We talking here hours hehe NetBSD is known to support like 60 architectures - many of them low end embedded systems: so ftp AS A CHOICE (you have other options!) is very smart and easy

I think GP is confused why the ftp command also handles http(s) :)

I hate to imagine what a 780 running NetBSD would be like, too.

I tried netbooting NetBSD on my MicroVAX 3400, which is about 2.5x the performance of the 780. It did, literally, take 6+ hours to slog through making RSA keys.

Re: This is my attempt to get Vulkan going on NetBSD

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oldest supported machine for NetBSD is VAX 780 from 1978(!!!). One of the first system supporting mmu, 32 bit cpu, virtual memory etc etc This machine is so slow that it takes a lot of time to generate ssh keys etc. We talking here hours hehe NetBSD is known to support like 60 architectures - many of them low end embedded systems: so ftp AS A CHOICE (you have other options!) is very smart and easy

I think GP is confused why the ftp command also handles http(s) :) I hate to imagine what a 780 running NetBSD would be like, too. I tried netbooting NetBSD on my MicroVAX 3400, which is about 2.5x the performance of the 780. It did, literally, take 6+ hours to slog through making RSA keys.

> I think GP is confused why the ftp command also handles http(s) :)

Exactly - I even suspected for a second that `ftp` on NetBSD is something else entirely, not an actual FTP client with HTTP/HTTPS URLs bolted on. It's not - it still accepts a host as an argument and opens a CLI if there's an FTP server to talk to.

Re: This is my attempt to get Vulkan going on NetBSD

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Installation instructions: ftp https://raw.githubusercontent.com/segaboy/vulkan-netbsd/main/scripts/setup-env.sh !^^^^^! That's... a bit unorthodox. FreeBSD has a `fetch`[1] utility for this, I wasn't aware NetBSD puts that in `ftp`[2]. Interesting choice. I wonder what led to it. [1] https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?fetch [2] https://man.netbsd.org/ftp.1

I dunno, that feels very BSD to me. Presumably, they had a ftp utility first, and then when somebody wanted to download files over http they looked around and decided that the obvious thing to do was to add it to the existing file transfer/download program. Same as continuing to add functions to ifconfig rather than inventing a new ip tool.

Re: This is my attempt to get Vulkan going on NetBSD

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post #12
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oldest supported machine for NetBSD is VAX 780 from 1978(!!!). One of the first system supporting mmu, 32 bit cpu, virtual memory etc etc This machine is so slow that it takes a lot of time to generate ssh keys etc. We talking here hours hehe NetBSD is known to support like 60 architectures - many of them low end embedded systems: so ftp AS A CHOICE (you have other options!) is very smart and easy

I think GP is confused why the ftp command also handles http(s) :) I hate to imagine what a 780 running NetBSD would be like, too. I tried netbooting NetBSD on my MicroVAX 3400, which is about 2.5x the performance of the 780. It did, literally, take 6+ hours to slog through making RSA keys.

Elliptic curve key gen is much faster on slow hardware. You're waiting around on primality tests that aren't necessary with modern keys.

Re: This is my attempt to get Vulkan going on NetBSD

#19

I have never had a need for NetBSD, but in case I ever do, I’m glad it’s there. Especially with Linux deprecating old platforms. This looks like an unofficial effort but hopefully it gets refined and integrated.

NetBSD already has relevant packages officially.

Which packages? I couldn't find what I needed, and that's the whole reason for building all this.
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