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Chip Off The Old Block

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Re: Chip Off The Old Block

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Post by mrmarket »

graemep wrote: post #10
camgunz wrote: post #9

> I love my daughter, but I’ve never been a little girl; it doesn’t bring anything back for me. It’s like Mudjekeewis says - you’ve got to have a son to see your youth rise up before you. This feels pretty unnecessary. > The online parenting community is large, opinionated, and vicious. Extremely super true, and it's even worse for moms. You also have to add "predatory" in the sense that people will sell you all kind…

I think he is extrapolating from his daughter being like his wife and his son being like him to thinking that is a general rule. I also find the idea of kids being "people who were basically me" worrying: I associate it with controlling parents who want to live their lives through their kids.

yeah, I noticed this too and thought it was interesting. Scott has always been prone to a form of what i'd call 'excessive rationality' where his quest for things to be hyper-logical and follow a perfect 'if-then' structure ends up being self-limiting, needlessly rigid, unimaginative, and close minded in somewhat random ways.

i just had a little boy (a week ago!) but i feel very certain if i'd had a daughter instead i'd still feel all the same emotions i feel now. in fact, i'm having the opposite experience he's having - my son is the spitting image of my wife as a baby.

Re: Chip Off The Old Block

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Post by vessenes »

camgunz wrote: post #9

> I love my daughter, but I’ve never been a little girl; it doesn’t bring anything back for me. It’s like Mudjekeewis says - you’ve got to have a son to see your youth rise up before you. This feels pretty unnecessary. > The online parenting community is large, opinionated, and vicious. Extremely super true, and it's even worse for moms. You also have to add "predatory" in the sense that people will sell you all kind…

If he has more children he may find he has a daughter just like him as well; but the joy of connecting with your children is worth appreciating and talking about in any event, I’d say

Re: Chip Off The Old Block

#13

Post by vessenes »

We can hope that Scott’s parenting experience will convince other Rationalists and EAs to have children —- there was a time when they all posted things like “the single worst thing any person could do for their own happiness is become a parent, statistically speaking”.

Large religions with no children as the culture are extra scary to me, so I’m taking this as a really good sign that Scott’s happy as a parent, and wish him luck at becoming the twitter-verse’s representative parent.

Re: Chip Off The Old Block

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Post by automatic6131 »

vessenes wrote: post #13

We can hope that Scott’s parenting experience will convince other Rationalists and EAs to have children —- there was a time when they all posted things like “the single worst thing any person could do for their own happiness is become a parent, statistically speaking”. Large religions with no children as the culture are extra scary to me, so I’m taking this as a really good sign that Scott’s happy as a parent, and wi…

Is it too eugenecist to hope those losers won't reconsider and stay childfree? I think it would be for the best if I didn't have to meet them at parental things.

Re: Chip Off The Old Block

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Post by AndrewDucker »

mrmarket wrote: post #11
graemep wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think he is extrapolating from his daughter being like his wife and his son being like him to thinking that is a general rule. I also find the idea of kids being "people who were basically me" worrying: I associate it with controlling parents who want to live their lives through their kids.

yeah, I noticed this too and thought it was interesting. Scott has always been prone to a form of what i'd call 'excessive rationality' where his quest for things to be hyper-logical and follow a perfect 'if-then' structure ends up being self-limiting, needlessly rigid, unimaginative, and close minded in somewhat random ways. i just had a little boy (a week ago!) but i feel very certain if i'd had a daughter instead…

Yeah. I (male) have a daughter who is very much like me, to the point where my wife finds it hilarious when I get frustrated at her behaving in the same ways my wife gets frustrated at me for behaving.

Re: Chip Off The Old Block

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Post by xg15 »

vessenes wrote: post #13

We can hope that Scott’s parenting experience will convince other Rationalists and EAs to have children —- there was a time when they all posted things like “the single worst thing any person could do for their own happiness is become a parent, statistically speaking”. Large religions with no children as the culture are extra scary to me, so I’m taking this as a really good sign that Scott’s happy as a parent, and wi…

Shouldn't the Longtermists be extremely concerned about that? I imagine each present potential child that wasn't born would lead to several trillion future potential descendants that are also prevented from existence. Spread it wide enough and you definitely have an extinction-level risk...

(jk)

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