My dad went to one when his cancer entered the terminal phase, I think he knew it was bullsh*t but it was a more human « treatment » than everything else he went through so he liked it. I still think it was a charlatan preying on him but I guess no more amoral than crystals moms and essential oils MLMs.
Who are the fire-tamers?
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Re: Who are the fire-tamers?
#12Never forget: For all the little bit of positive results for a placebo there are also negative effects due to noceboeffect. Also it's very common in esoterica that if it works it was the healer if it didn't it was something you did wrong.
Re: Who are the fire-tamers?
#13Never forget: For all the little bit of positive results for a placebo there are also negative effects due to noceboeffect. Also it's very common in esoterica that if it works it was the healer if it didn't it was something you did wrong.
What is "noceboeffect"?
Re: Who are the fire-tamers?
#14Never forget: For all the little bit of positive results for a placebo there are also negative effects due to noceboeffect. Also it's very common in esoterica that if it works it was the healer if it didn't it was something you did wrong.
What is "noceboeffect"?
I'm not sure how it applies here though because alternative therapies rarely state expected negative effects.
Re: Who are the fire-tamers?
#15Never forget: For all the little bit of positive results for a placebo there are also negative effects due to noceboeffect. Also it's very common in esoterica that if it works it was the healer if it didn't it was something you did wrong.
What is "noceboeffect"?
Re: Who are the fire-tamers?
#16Re: Who are the fire-tamers?
#17Never forget: For all the little bit of positive results for a placebo there are also negative effects due to noceboeffect. Also it's very common in esoterica that if it works it was the healer if it didn't it was something you did wrong.
What is "noceboeffect"?
Sometimes called non-cebo/none-cebo though I avoid that as starting with “nonce” can be a trigger for the easily befuddled and offended (“Could you be experiencing a noncebo type effect?”, “WHAT DID YOU CALL ME?!”).
As the wikipedia page points out, this is not to be confused with knowcebo, which sounds the same. This is where information leaks break blinding measures and render test results less (or completely not) meaningful.
Re: Who are the fire-tamers?
#18I was in France for a wedding recently and I saw traiteur on the side of one of the vans pulled up. I remarked to the staff that in Louisiana French, traiteur/traiteuse means folk healer, and they told me it was just the caterers.
Re: Who are the fire-tamers?
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#20My dad went to one when his cancer entered the terminal phase, I think he knew it was bullsh*t but it was a more human « treatment » than everything else he went through so he liked it. I still think it was a charlatan preying on him but I guess no more amoral than crystals moms and essential oils MLMs.
Lately I have been stirring the cauldron and getting to know quite a few witchy women and there are a lot of them who make and sell their own essential oil products that are like the MLM products but don't have the upline and all it entails. Still I think "just get a diffuser".
(Some people would disagree: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48734824)