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Re: A forgotten social media post may hold key clues to Covid-19's origin

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Post by gausswho »

CalRobert wrote: post #5

"SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, had arrived in the country on frozen lobsters from Maine that were sold at the Wuhan market" ..... I know, strongly, that this is purely an anecdote. But this was kind of crazy to see. In Dec 2019 my family and I traveled from Europe to visit family in Maine. We returned around new year's and all got what was by _far_ the worst flu any of us had every had in our lives. And…

The Dec 2019 bug also hit me (living in NYC). I wasn't mentally myself for three weeks. I'm not even sure I fully recuperated. It was intense, and worse than when I eventually did experience COVID a couple years later.

From what I read at the time, there was a non-COVID flu at this time throughout the east coast. Tests months later did not show I had COVID antibodies. It remains to me a remarkable sickness unlike anything else I've experienced.

Re: A forgotten social media post may hold key clues to Covid-19's origin

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Post by bombcar »

CalRobert wrote: post #5

"SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, had arrived in the country on frozen lobsters from Maine that were sold at the Wuhan market" ..... I know, strongly, that this is purely an anecdote. But this was kind of crazy to see. In Dec 2019 my family and I traveled from Europe to visit family in Maine. We returned around new year's and all got what was by _far_ the worst flu any of us had every had in our lives. And…

Could it be worth reaching out to a researcher? If you've NOT had Covid since, you may have evidence in your own bodies that would be useful.

Re: A forgotten social media post may hold key clues to Covid-19's origin

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Post by halfnormalform »

y-c-o-m-b wrote: post #9
CalRobert wrote: post #5

"SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, had arrived in the country on frozen lobsters from Maine that were sold at the Wuhan market" ..... I know, strongly, that this is purely an anecdote. But this was kind of crazy to see. In Dec 2019 my family and I traveled from Europe to visit family in Maine. We returned around new year's and all got what was by _far_ the worst flu any of us had every had in our lives. And…

My child and mother both got super sick like this in March 2019 also, so naturally my wife and mother both think it was early covid. What makes me doubt this is the fact that when Italy and NYC got hit in 2020, there was a HUGE jump in deaths. They couldn't keep up with the bodies. If this thing was circulating earlier than 2020, we surely would've seen the Italy/NYC pattern very quickly. I think the 2019 flu virus o…

Perhaps the virus evolved to be more deadly after the initial wave of “flu”?

Re: A forgotten social media post may hold key clues to Covid-19's origin

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Post by bookofjoe »

CalRobert wrote: post #5

"SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, had arrived in the country on frozen lobsters from Maine that were sold at the Wuhan market" ..... I know, strongly, that this is purely an anecdote. But this was kind of crazy to see. In Dec 2019 my family and I traveled from Europe to visit family in Maine. We returned around new year's and all got what was by _far_ the worst flu any of us had every had in our lives. And…

>The lobster maps

https://pandemonium.hypotheses.org/898

Re: A forgotten social media post may hold key clues to Covid-19's origin

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Post by g-b-r »

y-c-o-m-b wrote: post #9
CalRobert wrote: post #5

"SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, had arrived in the country on frozen lobsters from Maine that were sold at the Wuhan market" ..... I know, strongly, that this is purely an anecdote. But this was kind of crazy to see. In Dec 2019 my family and I traveled from Europe to visit family in Maine. We returned around new year's and all got what was by _far_ the worst flu any of us had every had in our lives. And…

My child and mother both got super sick like this in March 2019 also, so naturally my wife and mother both think it was early covid. What makes me doubt this is the fact that when Italy and NYC got hit in 2020, there was a HUGE jump in deaths. They couldn't keep up with the bodies. If this thing was circulating earlier than 2020, we surely would've seen the Italy/NYC pattern very quickly. I think the 2019 flu virus o…

To my recollection Italy had an unusually high amount of strong pneumonia at the end 2019, apparently not covid.

The deaths sure spiked later though.

I wonder if it was an earlier variant of Covid, but I guess they would have detected that.

Re: A forgotten social media post may hold key clues to Covid-19's origin

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Post by palmotea »

bombcar wrote: post #12
CalRobert wrote: post #5

"SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, had arrived in the country on frozen lobsters from Maine that were sold at the Wuhan market" ..... I know, strongly, that this is purely an anecdote. But this was kind of crazy to see. In Dec 2019 my family and I traveled from Europe to visit family in Maine. We returned around new year's and all got what was by _far_ the worst flu any of us had every had in our lives. And…

Could it be worth reaching out to a researcher? If you've NOT had Covid since, you may have evidence in your own bodies that would be useful.

> If you've NOT had Covid since, you may have evidence in your own bodies that would be useful.

Unlikely. By this point, hasn't pretty much everyone had COVID? My understanding is recent variants often don't even lead to very severe symptoms and may not be recognized as COVID.

Re: A forgotten social media post may hold key clues to Covid-19's origin

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Post by RickJWagner »

SirFatty wrote: post #3

And I still think the lab leak is the most likely source.

I think so, too.

An exotic disease breaks out right on top of a lab where disease cultivation occurs. Then government coverups begin.

Future generations will be amazed that anyone dismissed this very, very strong possibility.

Also— in a few years, when the politicization has faded, we need a comprehensive study on which countries took the right steps at the time. ( How much shutdown was beneficial. )

Re: A forgotten social media post may hold key clues to Covid-19's origin

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Post by rich_sasha »

CalRobert wrote: post #5

"SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, had arrived in the country on frozen lobsters from Maine that were sold at the Wuhan market" ..... I know, strongly, that this is purely an anecdote. But this was kind of crazy to see. In Dec 2019 my family and I traveled from Europe to visit family in Maine. We returned around new year's and all got what was by _far_ the worst flu any of us had every had in our lives. And…

It's clear COVID was circulating by then. I remember a story about an American guy in the US, west coast somewhere, in whose Nov 2019 blood samples they found antibodies. IIRC first reports of unusual respiratory disease in China are from October.

If that was indeed COVID then this stuff was around and not only in Wuhan.

Re: A forgotten social media post may hold key clues to Covid-19's origin

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Post by SirFatty »

n4r9 wrote: post #15
SirFatty wrote: post #3

And I still think the lab leak is the most likely source.

What would persuade you otherwise?

Look, that virus was ready to spread without any mutations. As if it was packaged to do so.

Not sure why there is pushback on this idea (remember the media buried this as a story), lab leaks are a common occurrence unfortunately.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12835948/

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