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Stuff like this shouldn't be downvoted simply because they disagree. See that on HN way too often.
Why were Covid vaccine trials so fast?
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> And they were rushed out
This implies that corners were cut. They were not. They went through the full regulatory procedures.
> many people still sit with the issues they caused
Few medicines are entirely without side effects. The effects of the virus were in general far worse. Millions of lives were saved from the vaccines.
> Not a win
Apart from the millions of lives that were saved.
> at the very least, they reduced the confidence of average people in vaccines and gave credence to the anti-vaxxer
This was thanks to scientific illiteracy, cynical political opportunism, and rancid leadership. The vaccines were a huge success by any reasonable measure.
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#14Shouldn't we expect that in an emergency we cut through red tape, reprioritize, etc? Isn't government inefficiency one of the major complaints of the types who call the vaccine "rushed"? If that was ever a good faith argument they should have seen this as a win!
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If you jumped off the last topic immediately when it was trivially disproven why would I spend any time engaging with the next one you jump to?
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> many people still sit with the issues they caused From the vaccines? Is there any clinical basis for this category of long-term vaccine harm?
You're aware that the J&J was pulled from the market due to cardiac issues, right? It's not a theory that actual people were actually harmed by the products, the only question is risk/reward.
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Or completely violated the law by deleting emails. Using personal emails on purpose to avoid FOIA requests. Then lying to Congress about it. Getting caught red handed in all of the above and still getting a golden parachute. Really sad to see, anyone that lies to Congress should be punished for it.
And after all that blatant corruption, people will still call you a conspiracy nut if you think human error might may have been a bigger part in it
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Unfortunately, any viral infection can leave lasting damage too.
One of the outcomes of COVID was more awareness of post-viral syndromes.
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> And they were rushed out This implies that corners were cut. They were not. They went through the full regulatory procedures. > many people still sit with the issues they caused Few medicines are entirely without side effects. The effects of the virus were in general far worse. Millions of lives were saved from the vaccines. > Not a win Apart from the millions of lives that were saved. > at the very least, they red…
> They went through the full regulatory procedures.
This is a non-argument if you decide to adjust regulatory procedures for that one case.
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Stuff like this shouldn't be downvoted simply because they disagree. See that on HN way too often.
That's allowed according to pg. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171
What's discouraged is complaining about downvotes.