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It's Only When You Look Back

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Re: It's Only When You Look Back

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Post by malicka »

echelon wrote: post #2

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The issue is, you can’t solve social problems with technology alone. The most challenging problems for our species (inequality, starvation, homelessness, etc) are social, after all. And we don’t have the incentives nor political will to solve them.

On your points: You won’t wake up in your vacation destination until you swap the cars out for rail. Infrastructure won’t be cheap until the social problems making it expensive (land, middle-men, quid-pro-quo, endless subcontracting) are solved.

Re: It's Only When You Look Back

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Post by willmarch »

spaqin wrote: post #10
echelon wrote: post #2

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That's not optimism, that's a dystopia - a world where most humans simply exist, with no meaning. Doing remote work on the road seems pointless as there's no work to be done anymore (also rest of the world has trains already to allow that).

Why would there be no meaning?

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Post by tripleee »

spaqin wrote: post #10
echelon wrote: post #2

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That's not optimism, that's a dystopia - a world where most humans simply exist, with no meaning. Doing remote work on the road seems pointless as there's no work to be done anymore (also rest of the world has trains already to allow that).

ah yes, compared to the current day where most humans are full of meaning at their bullshit jobs

Re: It's Only When You Look Back

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

skybrian wrote: post #6
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #4

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In your future, when does it stop costing $500 to buy 32GB of DDR5? Or are the companies still leasing us the compute?

That’s what you object to? I’d be surprised if RAM weren’t cheap again in 2-4 years. It takes time to build factories, but it’s not that bad. On the other hand, construction getting cheaper seems very unlikely.

I'm a simple man. Promises of utopia are well and good, but it would appear the way we get there is by corporations hoovering up all the new means of production, at which point they somehow decide to share it all with the rest of us for some inexplicable reason - turning their trillions in investment into charity.

I don't believe any of it, I just want hardware to be cheap and accessible again because that means all the compute won't solely be in the hands of the few.

Re: It's Only When You Look Back

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Post by jplusequalt »

Drakexor wrote: post #17
echelon wrote: post #2

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I enjoyed this post, echelon. It's trendy to be negative on social media such as HN and I greatly appreciate your optimism. Some of the items you mentioned are already happening to various degrees of success.

>I greatly appreciate your optimism

It's optimism that has flowed over into delusional territory. We won't have 90% of what he states in 20 years, and the remaining 10% will not be evenly distributed.

Re: It's Only When You Look Back

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Post by pcthrowaway »

jplusequalt wrote: post #18
Drakexor wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I enjoyed this post, echelon. It's trendy to be negative on social media such as HN and I greatly appreciate your optimism. Some of the items you mentioned are already happening to various degrees of success.

>I greatly appreciate your optimism It's optimism that has flowed over into delusional territory. We won't have 90% of what he states in 20 years, and the remaining 10% will not be evenly distributed.

I think they're mostly right, it'll cost next to nothing to build new skyscrapers. Just a few thousand human lives which will be tokenized and easily available for 5 Muskcoin apiece on the decentralized markets.

Re: It's Only When You Look Back

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Post by pcthrowaway »

willmarch wrote: post #12
spaqin wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not optimism, that's a dystopia - a world where most humans simply exist, with no meaning. Doing remote work on the road seems pointless as there's no work to be done anymore (also rest of the world has trains already to allow that).

Why would there be no meaning?

This is something only comfortable first-world inhabitants tell themselves; as if the coffee they drink that some poor plantation worker toiled away in the heat for while some fat cat extracted the surplus value of their labour was part of a benevolent system designed to bring "meaning" to the less fortunate.
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