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Memory crisis is getting so bad that even retro RAM prices are going to the Moon

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Re: Memory crisis is getting so bad that even retro RAM prices are going to the Moon

#11

The headline made me fear that I will need to shell out a few more bucks for 4164 DRAM chips, but fortunately this does not seem to be the case. DDR3 is not "retro", for chrissakes.

It was introduced barely 20 years ago. By that rationale the PS3 is a retro console

In 2000 when the PS2 came out was the NES a retro console?

It was 17 years old, or 14 years since wide distribution in the USA.

What counts as "retro" basically comes down to when the person you ask was born.

Re: Memory crisis is getting so bad that even retro RAM prices are going to the Moon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you have priced it wrong? I just checked Ebay, a 16GB 12800 Registered ECC module goes for 40-50USD ea. That is crazy! Last year they were like 5 USD each.

Agree. I was buying DDR3 16GB sticks for some laptops at $5/pop on eBay, now $60+ each.

Do you have any links? I remember DDR3 sodimms being maybe $.25-$.50/gb for low capacity (4gb), but 8gb+ sticks were always $.80-1+/gb.

Re: Memory crisis is getting so bad that even retro RAM prices are going to the Moon

#13

I work in e-waste recycling. Ever since the TurboQuant paper in March, I haven't been able to sell any DDR3. I'm guessing that the DDR2 and 3 this article is referring to is the actual memory chips, not modules/sticks that servers, desktops, laptops, etc. use, because the latter aren't moving.

Wild guess, but maybe China has something to do with that? They've got a huge "recover->break down/strip->recondition->sell refurbs to manufacturers" industry pipeline that doesn't seem to much exist outside of China.

Re: Memory crisis is getting so bad that even retro RAM prices are going to the Moon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree. I was buying DDR3 16GB sticks for some laptops at $5/pop on eBay, now $60+ each.

Do you have any links? I remember DDR3 sodimms being maybe $.25-$.50/gb for low capacity (4gb), but 8gb+ sticks were always $.80-1+/gb.

I misremembered, it was $5 for 16GB DDR4 (not DDR3) sticks that I was paying on eBay. That might change the pricing.

Here's one I found in my email:

https://imgur.com/a/YWYpuzp

Re: Memory crisis is getting so bad that even retro RAM prices are going to the Moon

#15
post #3

I work in e-waste recycling. Ever since the TurboQuant paper in March, I haven't been able to sell any DDR3. I'm guessing that the DDR2 and 3 this article is referring to is the actual memory chips, not modules/sticks that servers, desktops, laptops, etc. use, because the latter aren't moving.

Maybe you have priced it wrong? I just checked Ebay, a 16GB 12800 Registered ECC module goes for 40-50USD ea. That is crazy! Last year they were like 5 USD each.

That’s crazy, I bought a couple trays of DDR3 2 years ago for under $100 each.

Re: Memory crisis is getting so bad that even retro RAM prices are going to the Moon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was introduced barely 20 years ago. By that rationale the PS3 is a retro console

In 2000 when the PS2 came out was the NES a retro console? It was 17 years old, or 14 years since wide distribution in the USA. What counts as "retro" basically comes down to when the person you ask was born.

New NES were still available in the US through at least Christmas 1992, and in Europe deep into 1995, both selling alongside the SNES since 1991.

The final new international games were released in 1994, but Europe still got new games into 1995.

Japanese Famicoms were still being sold in Japan when the PS2 released. They sold more in Japan in 2001 than in 2000.

So no, calling the NES "retro" in 2000 wouldn't have made all too much sense.

Re: Memory crisis is getting so bad that even retro RAM prices are going to the Moon

#17

The headline made me fear that I will need to shell out a few more bucks for 4164 DRAM chips, but fortunately this does not seem to be the case. DDR3 is not "retro", for chrissakes.

It was introduced barely 20 years ago. By that rationale the PS3 is a retro console

yes the ps3 is now considered a retro console.

Re: Memory crisis is getting so bad that even retro RAM prices are going to the Moon

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any links? I remember DDR3 sodimms being maybe $.25-$.50/gb for low capacity (4gb), but 8gb+ sticks were always $.80-1+/gb.

I misremembered, it was $5 for 16GB DDR4 (not DDR3) sticks that I was paying on eBay. That might change the pricing. Here's one I found in my email: https://imgur.com/a/YWYpuzp

That's a great price for either, especially for DDR4. Only one stick though, right?

Re: Memory crisis is getting so bad that even retro RAM prices are going to the Moon

#20
Worldwide chip pricing and it's effects on the overall economy are fascinating. I expected by now somebody with a gen -2 class VLSI plant would swing into action and make for 2/3 the cost of the majors, and clean up in volume as the market absorbs the price shock. But no, instead it suits everyone in the pipeline to whine about it, but mark up prices instead.

I am guessing the other side of this, the price drops will happen but slowly, and just like gas pricing, the profit is in rapid reaction to shortage and slow reaction to competition returning.

Chip pricing a sawtooth would make a LOT of money for somebody.

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