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Not entirely related (though I think someone actually is working on a web framework for it): ObjFW [1][2] is an Objective-C framework and runtime that provides Cocoa-like classes and methods, but with more open-sourceness and portability. It even runs on Raspberry Pi! [1]: https://webkeks.org/objfw/ [2]: https://github.com/Midar/objfw (Mirror)
Midar doesn't slack around when it comes to portability. :)
Since we're doing this: http://webappkit.org
I think we need a totally new Objective-C framework for web development based on newer design patterns, GCD, etc, but it needs a new port of Foundation and Cocoa to Linux and other systems.
As much as I'd love an Objective-C web framework, I wouldn't use one that only ran on Mac OS, pretty useless in terms of production hosting I think.
Looks like this hasn't been updated since 2010, and it's website doesn't load. Also the underlying Cocoa port looks like it hasn't been updated since 2008. I think we need a totally new Objective-C framework for web development based on newer design patterns, GCD, etc, but it needs a new port of Foundation and Cocoa to Linux and other systems. As much as I'd love an Objective-C web framework, I wouldn't use one that…
Apple moved away from different binaries per platform by switching everything to Java which solve the portability question, and additionally solved the database connectivity issues since by bring a java solution any JDBC driver available to talk to a DB will work with WebObjects.
Overall the move to java was a good move, but Apple stopped the investment in the software that NeXT created and went back to focus on desktop and devices... But they kept WebObjects internally for their own benefits I think.
Looks like this hasn't been updated since 2010, and it's website doesn't load. Also the underlying Cocoa port looks like it hasn't been updated since 2008. I think we need a totally new Objective-C framework for web development based on newer design patterns, GCD, etc, but it needs a new port of Foundation and Cocoa to Linux and other systems. As much as I'd love an Objective-C web framework, I wouldn't use one that…
Agreed that if there was a modern WebObjects it should support GCD, and be at least available on Linux too. WebObjects back in the days was running on 4 different platforms: OpenStep, Windows NT, Solaris and HP-UX. so clearly the runtime was cross platform and it was relying only on the Foundation framework at runtime. None of the Cocoa framework was needed to deploy such app. Apple moved away from different binaries…
If I was to develop some web framework in Objective-C I will at least try to mimic the WebObjects framework which has some great concept behind it. The main grief against WebObjects that should be avoided is that the framework layer to access the database aka EOF (Enterprise Objects Framework) was never designed to use a connection pool nor work nicely in a multi-threaded environment. Sadly Apple stopped the developm…
If I was to develop some web framework in Objective-C I will at least try to mimic the WebObjects framework which has some great concept behind it. The main grief against WebObjects that should be avoided is that the framework layer to access the database aka EOF (Enterprise Objects Framework) was never designed to use a connection pool nor work nicely in a multi-threaded environment. Sadly Apple stopped the developm…
If I was to develop some web framework in Objective-C I will at least try to mimic the WebObjects framework which has some great concept behind it. The main grief against WebObjects that should be avoided is that the framework layer to access the database aka EOF (Enterprise Objects Framework) was never designed to use a connection pool nor work nicely in a multi-threaded environment. Sadly Apple stopped the developm…
What are some examples of things that WebObjects did right? Are there still published docs for it?
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Agreed that if there was a modern WebObjects it should support GCD, and be at least available on Linux too. WebObjects back in the days was running on 4 different platforms: OpenStep, Windows NT, Solaris and HP-UX. so clearly the runtime was cross platform and it was relying only on the Foundation framework at runtime. None of the Cocoa framework was needed to deploy such app. Apple moved away from different binaries…
Wasn't Cocoa available for exactly those four platforms as well?
frothkit looks wrong, reminds me a bit of asp.net.