I miss Fable. It worked so well -- it was so confident and would actually make decisions on its own that I agreed with. Opus 4.8 feels so dumb now.
Fable 5 pushed Gemma 4 to 255 tok/s on WebGPU
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Re: Fable 5 pushed Gemma 4 to 255 tok/s on WebGPU
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Either ollama or omlx, both are pretty dang performant. Omlx lets you run Claude code locally though as long as you bootstrap it with the right model
Why would you need Omlx? For speed up?
Has extra KV cache on SSD, and lots more options to tweak. There's experimental TurboQuant and multi token prediction support.
Re: Fable 5 pushed Gemma 4 to 255 tok/s on WebGPU
#13> It climbed to 84 tok/s, then hit a wall, insisting further optimization was impossible.
> Hours later, Anthropic rolled back invisible LLM development safeguards, and it hit 255 tok/s.
Wow. Limitnig access to models for other reasons than that you can't physically provide it should be a crime against humanity or the planet or something. So much immediate efficency left on the table for stupid reasons.
Re: Fable 5 pushed Gemma 4 to 255 tok/s on WebGPU
#14More of a meta comment, but I really wish anthropic would say something about their plans for Fable. We're all just kind of left here floating and aimless, with no idea of what to expect
They're kind of at the mercy of the US government on this, and the government seems to have them in the position you describe.
It's so great that the US is against AI regulation and gives corporations freedom to innovate /s
Re: Fable 5 pushed Gemma 4 to 255 tok/s on WebGPU
#15apologies for a dumb question, is this someone running fable5 on their own machine and it pushed to 255 tok/s? How is that possible (how did a person acquire the model?)
Re: Fable 5 pushed Gemma 4 to 255 tok/s on WebGPU
#16apologies for a dumb question, is this someone running fable5 on their own machine and it pushed to 255 tok/s? How is that possible (how did a person acquire the model?)
I'm assuming it means that someone used Fable 5 to implement Gemma 4 in WebGPU and it performs at 255 tok/s
Re: Fable 5 pushed Gemma 4 to 255 tok/s on WebGPU
#17More of a meta comment, but I really wish anthropic would say something about their plans for Fable. We're all just kind of left here floating and aimless, with no idea of what to expect
some of us knew the cloud was unreliable and chose a better path.
Well I would say you just chose ANOTHER sensible path with tradeoffs just like frontier API/subscriptions. Yes you get 100% control, cheaper inference, not having to stare at status.claude.com for like 2 hours per week, complete privacy (assuming local hosting or self hosting on servers).
But, you can’t get Fable level performance. OSS has reliably trailed the frontier by like 4-7 months for years now
Re: Fable 5 pushed Gemma 4 to 255 tok/s on WebGPU
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're kind of at the mercy of the US government on this, and the government seems to have them in the position you describe.
Agreed, though it sounds like they could add KYC stuff and restore access for US citizens. I utterly hate that we're at that point and I think it's ludicrous for privacy and just common sense, but it would be nice to know if that's their plan or not for example. Or if their plan is to just wait for the government to decide on something, or if they're planning to sue, or whatever.
> though it sounds like they could add KYC stuff and restore access for US citizens
I suspect so, I just got an email yesterday from Anthropic on their privacy policy update and they added:
> As part of our measures to keep our services safe and secure we may ask you to verify your age or identity, and we've described what we collect and how.
So yeah, ID verification is coming unfortunately. I wonder how that's going to work for team/business/enterprise plans? Is every individual corporate user going to have to submit their ID? How do they handle staying in compliance with the law with credential sharing that can happen within the company from the same IP address?
Re: Fable 5 pushed Gemma 4 to 255 tok/s on WebGPU
#19apologies for a dumb question, is this someone running fable5 on their own machine and it pushed to 255 tok/s? How is that possible (how did a person acquire the model?)
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Re: Fable 5 pushed Gemma 4 to 255 tok/s on WebGPU
#20apologies for a dumb question, is this someone running fable5 on their own machine and it pushed to 255 tok/s? How is that possible (how did a person acquire the model?)
It literally says they used it before it was shut down.