It's bittersweet, isn't it. Software is solved, but at a terrible cost.
How is it solved? LLMs cannot think new things, they can only cobble something together if it's in their training set.
New things are made by cobbling together existing things.
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#12It's bittersweet, isn't it. Software is solved, but at a terrible cost.
How is it solved? LLMs cannot think new things, they can only cobble something together if it's in their training set.
That "only" part used to be the hardest. Getting the ideas was never the hard part. I think someone here even wrote an essay on that.
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#13It's bittersweet, isn't it. Software is solved, but at a terrible cost.
Why is it bittersweet? Carpenters probably didn't cry when their tools improved. It will be bittersweet when there's no human needed at the wheel but IMHO we are far, far from that. These models/agents are just mimicking human text and need guidance because they often get lost or stuck.
I think carpenters might cry if a company went around shoving every single piece of carpentry they could find into a machine, and then when you press a button on that machine, a chair comes out, and then they go around saying that this machine will replace carpenters forever, and they made this machine with no help from other carpenters, and furniture makers all went "who needs carpenters anymore, lets just use the chair machine"
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#14"I does not boot and it makes me sad"
I actually write prompts like that when I'm not under pressure. Claude will sometimes completely ignore your feelings, and sometimes give a little comment, which I just find refreshing in the middle of otherwise often boring sessions. And it does not have an effect on the actual result.
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#15403 forbidden
Feels like it might be pertinent to share more details than simply the error code. What country? How are you connecting? Anything out of the ordinary with your setup that might be the cause?
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is it bittersweet? Carpenters probably didn't cry when their tools improved. It will be bittersweet when there's no human needed at the wheel but IMHO we are far, far from that. These models/agents are just mimicking human text and need guidance because they often get lost or stuck.
Carpenters would have cried if all their work was reduced to shoving the logs into CNC machines. Yes there is still human input but it requires comparatively no skill or depth and it gets easier by the month. If I were lobotimized today I'd still be able to function as half-assed architect to AIs anyway. When was the last time you read fighting distractions/getting "in the zone"/complaint about open space offices thr…
> Yes there is still human input but it requires comparatively no skill or depth and it gets easier by the month. If I were lobotimized today I'd still be able to function as half-assed architect to AIs anyway.
Hard doubt, software engineering is so much more than just literal coding and typing. At least for many of us, the coding/typing part is the easy stuff, everything around that is where the actual engineering happens. If I were lobotomized, maybe I'd get ~10% done today as the day before, if I'm lucky. Even with my full mental capabilities, the agents end up on wild goose-chases unless I'm very specific with what I want, and even sometimes ignoring things if they're too complicated/takes too long, so a bit of thinking is still required to get the right prompts.
And considering how subjective programming is, since it's a creative endeavour after all, I'm not that worried somehow all programmers will be unemployed in just some years.
> When was the last time
Frequency of something doesn't tell you how big of an issue something is, for all we know, HN community (or even the moderators) could have been tired of all the circular conversations where nothing new is being said, and downvote it. Doesn't really tell us much.
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#17"I does not boot and it makes me sad" I actually write prompts like that when I'm not under pressure. Claude will sometimes completely ignore your feelings, and sometimes give a little comment, which I just find refreshing in the middle of otherwise often boring sessions. And it does not have an effect on the actual result.
Codex overuses the word "quickly". I'm tempted to check what happens if I tell him to do it slowly.
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#18I thought it was about Renaud' song _Laisse béton_
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#19For those unaware, this line is from the movie Terminator 2:
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Carpenters would have cried if all their work was reduced to shoving the logs into CNC machines. Yes there is still human input but it requires comparatively no skill or depth and it gets easier by the month. If I were lobotimized today I'd still be able to function as half-assed architect to AIs anyway. When was the last time you read fighting distractions/getting "in the zone"/complaint about open space offices thr…
> Yes there is still human input but it requires comparatively no skill or depth and it gets easier by the month. If I were lobotimized today I'd still be able to function as half-assed architect to AIs anyway. Hard doubt, software engineering is so much more than just literal coding and typing. At least for many of us, the coding/typing part is the easy stuff, everything around that is where the actual engineering h…
Honestly conflating coding with typing tells me your idea of coding is very different to what I used to do.