It is sad that once again we will be exposed to more criminals trying to steal our data. Memory encryption not only allows to secure memory from physical "cold RAM", but also prevents loss of encryption keys as it hides the content during transfer.
AMD silently removes memory encryption from consumer Ryzen CPUs
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Re: AMD silently removes memory encryption from consumer Ryzen CPUs
#12This was never marketed as a feature of the consumer CPUs and if some malignant actor does get physical access to my (consumer) hardware, then them being able to read out bytes through cryo-freezing the RAM really isn't high up on the list of things I'm going to worry about.
Re: AMD silently removes memory encryption from consumer Ryzen CPUs
#13Any idea what's happening? This sounds _bad_.
> To be fair to AMD, there is no clear indication that the company ever publicly advertised TSME as a consumer Ryzen feature. A feature that was possibly accidentally enabled on consumer chips is now being disabled. I would guess that the number of owners of consumer chips who also relied on them for encryption is exceedingly small. The primary concern persists. The manufacturer has an exceptional amount of control o…
To be fair same can't be said of ECC, even though ECC should be basic feature out of the box.
Re: AMD silently removes memory encryption from consumer Ryzen CPUs
#14I would be fine with this if it meant CPUs became slightly cheaper, but we know that's not going to happen.
And there's been talk that now the so-called "AI companies" will start using more CPUs as well, due to "personal agentic agents", so I hope that people won't be priced out of CPUs too...
Re: AMD silently removes memory encryption from consumer Ryzen CPUs
#15For what it's worth, RAM encryption belongs to professional SKUs. It's the right business decision that should have been made from from the very beginning. For most consumer users, RAM encryption primarily adds power consumption and heat generation while providing little practical benefit. They simply don't face many of the threat vectors and attack scenarios that certain industries and enterprise environments must c…
This is an absurd take since the referenced chips in the article are all desktop parts, and the power usage is dwarfed by any “modern” (within the last five years) GPU.
There are many people, myself included who opt to use security features like this. All this does is reduce security for folks without any legitimate reason. “Power consumption” is absolutely not a valid excuse to completely disable it.
I’ve been a fan of AMD for a while now but they’re really jumping the shark these days. It’s a real shit situation we’re all in because of the lack of competition in consumer CPUs. I can only hope things like RISCV take off sooner than later.
Re: AMD silently removes memory encryption from consumer Ryzen CPUs
#16This will be re-added in a few years. The current flip-flop is just enshittification.
Re: AMD silently removes memory encryption from consumer Ryzen CPUs
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
> To be fair to AMD, there is no clear indication that the company ever publicly advertised TSME as a consumer Ryzen feature. A feature that was possibly accidentally enabled on consumer chips is now being disabled. I would guess that the number of owners of consumer chips who also relied on them for encryption is exceedingly small. The primary concern persists. The manufacturer has an exceptional amount of control o…
How can manufacturers simultaneously have exceptional control over flags and not enough control to know what flags are enabled on their shipping products? They either have that control or they don't.
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Re: AMD silently removes memory encryption from consumer Ryzen CPUs
#18If it can be silently removed was it a security feature? Whilst I hate companies paying engineers to make things worse just to segment their market; I am not really seeing this as an important feature outside the data-center? If an evil-maid has hardware access they hack the USB and/or PCI not the RAM surely?
Sneakily and silently removing a feature in a firmware revision is not acceptable, security or otherwise.
Re: AMD silently removes memory encryption from consumer Ryzen CPUs
#19For what it's worth, RAM encryption belongs to professional SKUs. It's the right business decision that should have been made from from the very beginning. For most consumer users, RAM encryption primarily adds power consumption and heat generation while providing little practical benefit. They simply don't face many of the threat vectors and attack scenarios that certain industries and enterprise environments must c…
how do you know what threats I face? how do you know what threats journalists and whistleblowers face?
this is approximately the same discussion as with ECC RAM: the benefits vastly outweigh the slight performance loss and die area increases.
Re: AMD silently removes memory encryption from consumer Ryzen CPUs
#20I'm curious about Denuvo's opinion on that.