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The Web We Know Is Going to Disappear

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Re: The Web We Know Is Going to Disappear

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Post by nancyminusone »

paul7986 wrote: post #4

Actually i think AI will make the web the backbone of humanity once a system is in place that gets all humans paid for our daily content (conversations, pics, videos, songs, movies, etc). All of us create content daily via living. The web now is a system that all of humanity owns and its not controlled by one company or organization. It can be a place where every human publishes our daily content to our own websites…

yeah, but they won't be paying you. Not today, not ever. That's a pretty fundamental premise of the whole AI phenomenon.

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Post by cdrnsf »

paul7986 wrote: post #4

Actually i think AI will make the web the backbone of humanity once a system is in place that gets all humans paid for our daily content (conversations, pics, videos, songs, movies, etc). All of us create content daily via living. The web now is a system that all of humanity owns and its not controlled by one company or organization. It can be a place where every human publishes our daily content to our own websites…

The only Americans likely to be furnished with stock have the same last name as the president.

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Post by alabut »

senderista wrote: post #3

> Maybe this article will be read by humans. Maybe it will be summarized by an AI into two polite lines for someone curious on the other side of the planet. Maybe it was generated by an AI in the first place.

I get the impression a lot of people use ai to clean up writing when English isn’t their first language, which unfortunately means they can’t see the robotic generic tone it creates. E.g. the references to user groups in Buenos Aires.

One way they could maybe counteract it is approach it like code golf - can you use an LLM to make it much, much shorter? Because being overly verbose dilutes the handful of points you’re trying to make.

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Post by tonymet »

none of these platforms exists without the people and the content they produce. I’m less worried about the platforms and more worried about the contributors , what they are contributing, and which ones are favored, and why.

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Post by mcphage »

reconnecting wrote: post #8

> Not megabits. Not gigabits. Not fiber. ... > Not BBSs. Not CD-ROM encyclopedias. Not isolated digital islands. ... > Artists had websites. Musicians had websites. Game developers had websites. ... > People want answers. People want connection. People want tools. This is just impossible to read.

It’s not impossible to read, just… pointless.

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Post by VulgarExigency »

The web as I knew it is already dead. It has been dead for years. I don't understand why the blog owner had the AI that wrote the article focus on technology like Flash vs HTML5, those had no bearing on what actually mattered, which were communities.

What killed the web was the rise of social media and social media-like sites like Reddit. No one makes a website for their hobby or game/book/movie they're a fan of, and a forum and/or IRC channel for their site, anymore. They just post about it on Facebook or Twitter, or maybe on a subreddit for it, but the sense of community that used to be part of it is totally gone. You don't really get to know people like you used to on a forum. Niche Discord servers don't have this problem as much, but they suffer greatly in terms of discoverability.

AI has made it even worse, because now you can't even be sure you're talking to a person, but in my opinion the centralization around social media was far more damaging.

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Post by lwhi »

lbrito wrote: post #5
senderista wrote: post #3

> Maybe this article will be read by humans. Maybe it will be summarized by an AI into two polite lines for someone curious on the other side of the planet. Maybe it was generated by an AI in the first place.

Yeah I thought the same. The short sentences, like "The Web may become like IRC, FTP, Gopher, or BBSs. Not dead. Just smaller.", kind of gave that impression.

Unless the author's taking styling tips from AI prose.

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Post by spwa4 »

plagiarist wrote: post #15

It is already gone. Actual content has been flooded out by millions if not billions of affiliate ad listicles where, completely coincidentally, the top ten best $product are also the first ten $product on the Amazon search page.

There is more content than ever before accessible. It's just harder to find. If anything, this is a total failure of Google (and other search sites)

I wonder what this will mean for the future, both of Google and for finding information on the web.

Re: The Web We Know Is Going to Disappear

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Post by fsflover »

VulgarExigency wrote: post #17

The web as I knew it is already dead. It has been dead for years. I don't understand why the blog owner had the AI that wrote the article focus on technology like Flash vs HTML5, those had no bearing on what actually mattered, which were communities. What killed the web was the rise of social media and social media-like sites like Reddit. No one makes a website for their hobby or game/book/movie they're a fan of, and…

> No one makes a website for their hobby or game/book/movie they're a fan of

This is just not true. We even have a dedicated web search for that: https:// wiby.me

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