The upper middle class' opinions and reflections on business seem to be shifting in this environment. It seems less mutually beneficial than it used to be.
Considering the price of Stanford, this is more bourgeoisie than middle class
Around 200 Stanford students walk out as Google CEO takes stage
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#12The upper middle class' opinions and reflections on business seem to be shifting in this environment. It seems less mutually beneficial than it used to be.
A lot of upper middle class people recognize that AI is a direct assault on their livelihood. The very jobs that AI threatens to disrupt are the bread and butter of the upper middle class.
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#13The upper middle class' opinions and reflections on business seem to be shifting in this environment. It seems less mutually beneficial than it used to be.
Considering the price of Stanford, this is more bourgeoisie than middle class
> this is more bourgeoisie than middle class
The bourgeoisie are literally the middle class [1].
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#14The upper middle class' opinions and reflections on business seem to be shifting in this environment. It seems less mutually beneficial than it used to be.
Considering the price of Stanford, this is more bourgeoisie than middle class
What I was about to say. I’m pretty sure most of the students walking out have a trust fund way more than what I have as savings.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Considering the price of Stanford, this is more bourgeoisie than middle class
> this is more bourgeoisie than middle class The bourgeoisie are literally the middle class [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeoisie
> The bourgeoisie are a social class of business owners, merchants and wealthy people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx%27s_theory_of_class#Bourg...
There is even a funny article here: https://danielmiessler.com/blog/a-bourgeoisie-primer
There is more here: https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/hilk3e/trying...
So, if you want to play it safe, you can say, "it's the upper middle class that own the businesses and factories"
I'll give it to you
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#16The upper middle class' opinions and reflections on business seem to be shifting in this environment. It seems less mutually beneficial than it used to be.
A lot of upper middle class people recognize that AI is a direct assault on their livelihood. The very jobs that AI threatens to disrupt are the bread and butter of the upper middle class.
"The median family income of a student from Stanford is $167,500" [1]. Not poor. But not trust-fund rich.
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobilit...:
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
> this is more bourgeoisie than middle class The bourgeoisie are literally the middle class [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeoisie
> The bourgeoisie are a social class of business owners, merchants and wealthy people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx%27s_theory_of_class#Bourg... There is even a funny article here: https://danielmiessler.com/blog/a-bourgeoisie-primer There is more here: https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/hilk3e/trying... So, if you want to play it safe, you can say, "it's the upper middle class that own the businesse…
> No, it's the rich middle class
The "no" is incorrect. Some people use it to refer to the upper middle class. But this betrays the term's original Revolutionary as well as Marxists roots, and I'd argue, is inherently incorrect.
The main reason we blur these lines is because we want to call our poor middle class. And our rich don't want to admit that we're rich.
> it's the upper middle class that own the businesses and factories
I.e. everyone with a 401(k). (Two fifths of Americans have no material shareownership.)
If you don’t own equities or real estate in America, you’re poor. If you do, you’re middle class or rich. And if you’re middle class or rich and confused which you are, if you have ever chartered a private plane you’re rich, if you haven’t you’re the bourgeoisie.
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#18This is an effective form of protest. It causes someone who is clearly courting public affection to see they won't get it. It doesn't interrupt the speech for others who want to hear. But it's also not going to be missed by anyone at the assembly. Moreover, it communicates to the administration–who are also courting donations and prestige–that this gets more difficult when there is a massive gap on an issue students…
Is it? I have to assume that Pichai was informed beforehand that there would be a walkout. Around 10% if the class walking out is not that big of a deal, especially considering that ten percent was probably not likely to seek gainful employment with Pichai’s companies anyway.
Economically, the BDS movement is making demands of so many companies that there’s hardly a large firm or other organization in the country they don’t have a problem with. But if you are saying you’re going to boycott everyone, it means you’re not really boycotting anyone.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The bourgeoisie are a social class of business owners, merchants and wealthy people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx%27s_theory_of_class#Bourg... There is even a funny article here: https://danielmiessler.com/blog/a-bourgeoisie-primer There is more here: https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/hilk3e/trying... So, if you want to play it safe, you can say, "it's the upper middle class that own the businesse…
> No, it's the rich middle class The "no" is incorrect. Some people use it to refer to the upper middle class. But this betrays the term's original Revolutionary as well as Marxists roots, and I'd argue, is inherently incorrect. The main reason we blur these lines is because we want to call our poor middle class. And our rich don't want to admit that we're rich. > it's the upper middle class that own the businesses a…
> The main reason we blur these lines is because we want to call our poor middle class.
At least something I agree with you, it quite makes sense
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#20This is an effective form of protest. It causes someone who is clearly courting public affection to see they won't get it. It doesn't interrupt the speech for others who want to hear. But it's also not going to be missed by anyone at the assembly. Moreover, it communicates to the administration–who are also courting donations and prestige–that this gets more difficult when there is a massive gap on an issue students…
Is it? I have to assume that Pichai was informed beforehand that there would be a walkout. Around 10% if the class walking out is not that big of a deal, especially considering that ten percent was probably not likely to seek gainful employment with Pichai’s companies anyway. Economically, the BDS movement is making demands of so many companies that there’s hardly a large firm or other organization in the country the…
That assumes that the real purpose of these movements is to achieve their stated goals, rather than as a social activity for people of a certain mindset. If you look at it more like a church outing it makes a lot more sense, albeit the church is really messed up.