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Sogen – High-performance Windows and Linux userspace emulator

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Re: Sogen – High-performance Windows and Linux userspace emulator

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Post by homarp »

mentalgear wrote: post #7
wolfi1 wrote: post #3

I don't like these landing pages which explain nothing. does it emulate windows under linux and vice versa? then it definitely would be very interesting if it just sandboxes applications in the respective OS it could still be useful but has less advantages

As usual, the repo ( https://github.com/momo5502/sogen ) should be the HN link. On first look of the linked talk/demo, the German guy behind the project seems of legit DRM-background expertise.

on their twitter, author shows it running Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and 3:

https://xcancel.com/momo5502/status/2065872369407742398#m

https://xcancel.com/momo5502/status/2066937863162192049#m

Re: Sogen – High-performance Windows and Linux userspace emulator

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Post by drdexebtjl »

wolfi1 wrote: post #3

I don't like these landing pages which explain nothing. does it emulate windows under linux and vice versa? then it definitely would be very interesting if it just sandboxes applications in the respective OS it could still be useful but has less advantages

Respectfully, maybe you’re not the target audience? I think I understood it immediately.

It’s a debugging/reverse engineering tool. It emulates user space, so it can control/introspect the target processes to the same level that a kernel-level debugger could, but in user space.

Re: Sogen – High-performance Windows and Linux userspace emulator

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Post by firebot »

wolfi1 wrote: post #3

I don't like these landing pages which explain nothing. does it emulate windows under linux and vice versa? then it definitely would be very interesting if it just sandboxes applications in the respective OS it could still be useful but has less advantages

There's literally a demo video where he uses the tool and explains everything.

Re: Sogen – High-performance Windows and Linux userspace emulator

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Post by momo5502 »

wolfi1 wrote: post #3

I don't like these landing pages which explain nothing. does it emulate windows under linux and vice versa? then it definitely would be very interesting if it just sandboxes applications in the respective OS it could still be useful but has less advantages

Hey, author here, I agree with you. Landing page is shit. I will rework it, but at the moment, I'm rather focusing on improving the project itself.

To answer your actual question, it does both. It emulates both windows and linux (although linux implementation was done by a contributor and it's probably not as evolved as the windows part). It also does so on every platform, so you can emulate windows on your android/ios phone, even on the web. It cross compiles to pretty much every platform.

It supports various emulation backends, e.g. Unicorn (which uses QEMU under the hood), but also Hyper-V on windows. That's where the sandboxing part comes in to play: As Hyper-V is pretty fast, the emulator starts turning into a sandbox.

Maybe some day I can add KVM support so you can run sandboxed Windows apps on Linux, but I haven't had the time yet. So at the moment, only the slow emulation backends work on Linux.

Re: Sogen – High-performance Windows and Linux userspace emulator

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Post by momo5502 »

ramon156 wrote: post #4
wolfi1 wrote: post #3

I don't like these landing pages which explain nothing. does it emulate windows under linux and vice versa? then it definitely would be very interesting if it just sandboxes applications in the respective OS it could still be useful but has less advantages

I love when LLMs add stats that do not convey anything > 2 OS targets Well yeah.. Edit: I would like to add that I checked out the GH and it seems like a really cool project, hence it's a shame that the website did not reflect that.

I gladly accept pull request. I'm bad at webdesign and I'm not that big of a fan of AI generated pages (although I gotta admit I AI generated the landing page; hence I'm not a big fan of it). So if you have inspiration on how to improve it, especially on how to better present the project, feel free to tell me, or create a PR.

Re: Sogen – High-performance Windows and Linux userspace emulator

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Post by wolfi1 »

drdexebtjl wrote: post #12
wolfi1 wrote: post #3

I don't like these landing pages which explain nothing. does it emulate windows under linux and vice versa? then it definitely would be very interesting if it just sandboxes applications in the respective OS it could still be useful but has less advantages

Respectfully, maybe you’re not the target audience? I think I understood it immediately. It’s a debugging/reverse engineering tool. It emulates user space, so it can control/introspect the target processes to the same level that a kernel-level debugger could, but in user space.

that was not my question, my question was, if i could run windows programs under linux or vice versa, that was not clear to me and this wasn't answered by you as well, fortunately the original author clarified this
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