Sensing the mood here in Europe, this has been a defining moment that wil have an impact far beyond just AI.
It will not. We are unable.
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#12Straight answer to your question: "No."
As soon as the bomb of the Trinity test was detonated, the whole world entered the nuclear age, from that moment, irreversible. Quite a scale of an event to compare to.
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#13Sensing the mood here in Europe, this has been a defining moment that wil have an impact far beyond just AI.
I live in the UK, and as much as I love Europe as place to live, our future here looks very grim. Systematic problems multiplied to national inability to fund serious projects and cooperate at scale — this is a recipe for a disaster
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#14The ban is 100% politically motivated retribution because Anthropic told Trump and Hegseth to go pound sand. The US government is purposefully screwing with the company because they refused to play ball and embarrassed the administration. It's a transparent effort to take revenge on a perceived political enemy as well as promote a jingoistic agenda of "US Citizens Only" nationalism.
100% this it's the usual transparent Trump revenge tactics. The sad/scary fact is that there seem to be plenty of people who either can't or choose not to see it.
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#15I wouldnt be surprised if the big labs become semi-nationalized commodities a la electricity / railroads due to national security, with the best models gatekept from outsiders trying to distill it And I'm generally bearish on Chinese models catching up at this point, American labs are pulling away especially with mythos-tier models, and early signs of RSI (not to mention the benchmaxxing going on from the chinese lab…
I am not sure we have anything comparable with AI. Utility like electricity was hard to regulate from people because at some point anyone can build their own generator at the backyard.
AI if anything is opposite. Extremely high bar to build, and every next increment requires at best linear scale of resources.
If we imagine that AI became semi-nationalized and heavy regulated, then we enter the world where governments select companies and people to have access to capabilities which vast outlast capabilities available on the market. Company A is in “access list” and can deploy ruthless AI agent capable of advanced combined cyber operations; company B is denied. Who will win?
If we add here polarization and already historic high inequality, it reads like a straight recipe from Cyberpunk sci-fi.
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#16No.
Humanity has yet to create an AI. LLMs are not AI.
What you witnessed was an old man with a known and well documented case of dementia lashing out at people who wouldn't help him continue his attempt on strangling America to death under authoritarianism.
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#17> There is little doubt that China will start to follow suit. According to who? China loves picking up the slack that America drops. When America turns it's nose up at slave labor, China exports Xinjiang cotton. When Americans get iffy about manufacturing chemicals and refining rare earths, China does the dirty work at-cost. When Russians need weapons, China crosses the sanctions to deliver them. My nearest estimatio…
Yep. China will take this opportunity
to maximize their growth.
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#18It feels like this post was written with an LLM. If this is some bizarre Anthropic marketing scheme, then good job I guess.
But no, you're talking about LLMs like we've suddenly made AGI happen. LLMs are still just cogs in the toolchain. Every cog has it's purpose. LLMs are no different.
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#19No. Humanity has yet to create an AI. LLMs are not AI. What you witnessed was an old man with a known and well documented case of dementia lashing out at people who wouldn't help him continue his attempt on strangling America to death under authoritarianism.
I only downvoted the "Humanity has yet to create an AI" part. I agree that we have witnessed the actions of an old man with a case of dementia lashing out.
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