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Nextcloud Hub 26 Spring: Built together, designed for the future

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Re: Nextcloud Hub 26 Spring: Built together, designed for the future

#12
I run Nextcloud at home with 1.5TB of files and 2 users, on a reasonably sized server. It is painfully slow. Still better than OneDrive, but only just: synscing takes forever, never reaching a fraction of available bandwidth. Upload from my phone is flaky, often hangs and needs manual intervention. It is a battery drain. The whole experience with add-ons and the general UI feels like a 2010 PHP app.

I am grateful Nextcloud exists, but no app deserves a vibe coded Rust rewrite more than Nextcloud. Literally nothing to loose

Re: Nextcloud Hub 26 Spring: Built together, designed for the future

#13

Maybe I'm alone but nextcloud has gone from being kinda flaky and annoying to really great the past few years.

I always had terrible trouble keeping it (and before it, Owncloud) updated and in sync with available dependencies on my Debian host. A few years ago, when I built a new NAS, I installed a snap, and that's been the ticket. It's pretty close to flawless now.

Yeah, I eventually gave up on self hosting Nextcloud because of incompatibilities with PHP(-FPM), iirc. They were always lagging behind and it became a hassle to mantain. I ended up replacing all the parts I used with other single purpose software, and it's been a better experience overall.

Re: Nextcloud Hub 26 Spring: Built together, designed for the future

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Is nextcloud the good one and owncloud the inferior one?

Nextcloud is written in PHP, which doesn't sound scalable to me.

OwnCloud is written in Go but employs an open-core model. Some features are locked behind a proprietary paywall.

Re: Nextcloud Hub 26 Spring: Built together, designed for the future

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Is nextcloud the good one and owncloud the inferior one?

The good OwnCloud is abandoned, and instead they released some meme enterprise nonsense.

I'm running NextCloud, but I hesitate to call it good, because of its kitchen sink approach to features. I really want 2015 era OwnCloud with just files, it being PHP/MariaDB/Apache-based. I refuse to use anything that requires Docker, which is most of the slop alternatives currently available.

Re: Nextcloud Hub 26 Spring: Built together, designed for the future

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post #15
post #3

Is nextcloud the good one and owncloud the inferior one?

The good OwnCloud is abandoned, and instead they released some meme enterprise nonsense. I'm running NextCloud, but I hesitate to call it good, because of its kitchen sink approach to features. I really want 2015 era OwnCloud with just files, it being PHP/MariaDB/Apache-based. I refuse to use anything that requires Docker, which is most of the slop alternatives currently available.

You can remove almost app in Nextcloud. It is pretty modular. You can have a files only Nextcloud, last time I tried.

Re: Nextcloud Hub 26 Spring: Built together, designed for the future

#18
Nextcloud is great, I self-host an instance at home. I mostly use the calendar, address book, and file sharing with links a la Google Drive. It's probably heavier and slower than it should be for what it does, but it works.

Just like Home Assistant, it is a "must have" tool for self-hosters.

Re: Nextcloud Hub 26 Spring: Built together, designed for the future

#19

Maybe I'm alone but nextcloud has gone from being kinda flaky and annoying to really great the past few years.

I always had terrible trouble keeping it (and before it, Owncloud) updated and in sync with available dependencies on my Debian host. A few years ago, when I built a new NAS, I installed a snap, and that's been the ticket. It's pretty close to flawless now.

When I ran OwnCloud (on Debian), I installed from their APT repo, and one "apt upgrade" handled everything. It was nice and easy, and I didn't have any problems with it.

NextCloud uses its own updater* (which I don't like), and aside from some recent MariaDB snafu it's been very low maintenance.

  (*)sudo -u www-data php /var/www/nextcloud/updater/updater.phar

Re: Nextcloud Hub 26 Spring: Built together, designed for the future

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post #14
post #3

Is nextcloud the good one and owncloud the inferior one?

Nextcloud is written in PHP, which doesn't sound scalable to me. OwnCloud is written in Go but employs an open-core model. Some features are locked behind a proprietary paywall.

> Nextcloud is written in PHP, which doesn't sound scalable to me.

Lol what? Facebook (pre Hack), Tumblr, Wordpress, Etsy...

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