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British aerospace company claims biggest engine advance since the jet

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Re: British aerospace company claims biggest engine advance since the jet

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Here's a documentary that was broadcast on BBC4 a couple of months ago about Bond and his quixotic journey to get HOTOL/Skylon into the sky:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ_a21fPkYM

It includes a test-firing of the new heat-exchanger at the end.

Re: British aerospace company claims biggest engine advance since the jet

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post #8

Unfortunate title here - British Aerospace was involved in the project some years ago, but Reaction Engines is a distinct company and I believe they exist despite BAe's "assistance"

As an American, I parsed the title as "a British aerospace company..." not "the British Aerospace company..."

Re: British aerospace company claims biggest engine advance since the jet

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From the article: "The company has deliberately avoided filing patents on its heat exchanger technology to avoid details of how it works - particularly the method for preventing the build-up of frost - becoming public."

I would think that for something like this, the patent system would actually work fine. Anybody who tries to make this is going to be located in the US, Canada, Western Europe, or Japan. It's not like they're going to make cheap ones in China and India, and if they did it would be easily correctable with the WTO. What am I missing?

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post #5

Elon Musk was specifically asked about this technology when he was at Martin School last week. He didn't hear about it, but he seemed skeptical that it would work better than rockets. His response here: http://youtu.be/c1HZIQliuoA?t=48m55s SpaceX might still be the first one with a re-usable rocket if they finish the Raptor engine in 3 years. Plus, his could actually be used to land on Mars, while this can only be us…

> so only for launches to orbit

Isn't that our biggest challenge right now? I like how dismissive you are of it, like we have somehow overcome that and are now on our way to Mars any day now.

If someone was able to reduce the cost of going into orbit by as little as 10% that would be a MASSIVE achievement. Getting out of the atmosphere is still a massively costly, logistical, and dangerous challenge.

Re: British aerospace company claims biggest engine advance since the jet

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post #13
post #8

Unfortunate title here - British Aerospace was involved in the project some years ago, but Reaction Engines is a distinct company and I believe they exist despite BAe's "assistance"

As an American, I parsed the title as "a British aerospace company..." not "the British Aerospace company..."

Indeed. The capitalisation was what threw me originally, but I understand that the title isn't wrong - hence the use of "unfortunate" rather than "incorrect".

Re: British aerospace company claims biggest engine advance since the jet

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From the article: "The company has deliberately avoided filing patents on its heat exchanger technology to avoid details of how it works - particularly the method for preventing the build-up of frost - becoming public." I would think that for something like this, the patent system would actually work fine. Anybody who tries to make this is going to be located in the US, Canada, Western Europe, or Japan. It's not like…

You're missing the point that a competitor could build it in direct violation of the patent, go into space, get all of the glory, while they tie this company up in court for tens of years and cost them millions of dollars. This company might eventually win but by then the other company has become massively successful.

This has happened before. It will happen again.

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post #5

Elon Musk was specifically asked about this technology when he was at Martin School last week. He didn't hear about it, but he seemed skeptical that it would work better than rockets. His response here: http://youtu.be/c1HZIQliuoA?t=48m55s SpaceX might still be the first one with a re-usable rocket if they finish the Raptor engine in 3 years. Plus, his could actually be used to land on Mars, while this can only be us…

> so only for launches to orbit Isn't that our biggest challenge right now? I like how dismissive you are of it, like we have somehow overcome that and are now on our way to Mars any day now. If someone was able to reduce the cost of going into orbit by as little as 10% that would be a MASSIVE achievement. Getting out of the atmosphere is still a massively costly, logistical, and dangerous challenge.

I didn't mean to be dismissive about it, just trying to point out the major differences in how SpaceX's design is supposed to work (if it does work) and how this is supposed to work. And I agree, just being able to send them to orbit in a much cheaper way, would already achieve 90% of our current space goals.

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post #5

Elon Musk was specifically asked about this technology when he was at Martin School last week. He didn't hear about it, but he seemed skeptical that it would work better than rockets. His response here: http://youtu.be/c1HZIQliuoA?t=48m55s SpaceX might still be the first one with a re-usable rocket if they finish the Raptor engine in 3 years. Plus, his could actually be used to land on Mars, while this can only be us…

You might be able to use this engine to get in and out of orbit, and than use a traditional rocket engine for the space travel itself.
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