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Meta Keeps Delaying the Release of Its New AI Model to Developers

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Re: Meta Keeps Delaying the Release of Its New AI Model to Developers

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Post by verdverm »

ramshanker wrote: post #8

If they release a model comparable to OpenAI / Antropic, will there be any reason left for 1T valuation of other companies? At that point, it will simply become Revenue proportional to Gigawatts available. Whoever got the energy wins.

DeepSeek and friends already exists, yet $1T valuations still exist. I think we are nearing a point where inference and cost metrics become the primary optimization for a while. Both capacity and costs are going to drive it from the demand side. I've personally moved to open weights already, now setting up vendor calls to make them available at work.

Talking with OpenCode and Fireworks, appreciate any recommendations that have SOC-2 and the like

Re: Meta Keeps Delaying the Release of Its New AI Model to Developers

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Post by killingtime74 »

verdverm wrote: post #11
ramshanker wrote: post #8

If they release a model comparable to OpenAI / Antropic, will there be any reason left for 1T valuation of other companies? At that point, it will simply become Revenue proportional to Gigawatts available. Whoever got the energy wins.

DeepSeek and friends already exists, yet $1T valuations still exist. I think we are nearing a point where inference and cost metrics become the primary optimization for a while. Both capacity and costs are going to drive it from the demand side. I've personally moved to open weights already, now setting up vendor calls to make them available at work. Talking with OpenCode and Fireworks, appreciate any recommendations…

CloudFlare host the best models (Deepseek/Kimi)

Re: Meta Keeps Delaying the Release of Its New AI Model to Developers

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Post by azinman2 »

killingtime74 wrote: post #12
verdverm wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DeepSeek and friends already exists, yet $1T valuations still exist. I think we are nearing a point where inference and cost metrics become the primary optimization for a while. Both capacity and costs are going to drive it from the demand side. I've personally moved to open weights already, now setting up vendor calls to make them available at work. Talking with OpenCode and Fireworks, appreciate any recommendations…

CloudFlare host the best models (Deepseek/Kimi)

*best open models

Re: Meta Keeps Delaying the Release of Its New AI Model to Developers

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Post by anonym00se1 »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #6

I’ve used it at Meta. It’s very bad, if they released it in its current state it would be laughed at. I imagine they need to improve quality massively before it’s viable to release.

This is what I suspected. Wang was a generationally bad hire.

He has Meta SWEs making $250k+/year labeling data in AAI. He has exactly one move and it's this: https://i.imgflip.com/atotpp.jpg

Re: Meta Keeps Delaying the Release of Its New AI Model to Developers

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Post by verdverm »

killingtime74 wrote: post #12
verdverm wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DeepSeek and friends already exists, yet $1T valuations still exist. I think we are nearing a point where inference and cost metrics become the primary optimization for a while. Both capacity and costs are going to drive it from the demand side. I've personally moved to open weights already, now setting up vendor calls to make them available at work. Talking with OpenCode and Fireworks, appreciate any recommendations…

CloudFlare host the best models (Deepseek/Kimi)

They seem to be missing a number of them, DeepseekV4 did not show in their list / search. They seem to be slow on offering the latest options, a number of them are MIA

Re: Meta Keeps Delaying the Release of Its New AI Model to Developers

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Post by zdragnar »

xnx wrote: post #15

Completely forgot that Meta was doing AI (and certainly spending billions doing so). They've got a lot of money, but are far behind on experience, talent, technology, and infrastructure.

Don't forget llama.cpp came about when meta released the weights to their LLaMa LLM. They've been in the game for awhile, just not anywhere near the top of the score board since.

Re: Meta Keeps Delaying the Release of Its New AI Model to Developers

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Post by fnordpiglet »

leosanchez wrote: post #10
zeroonetwothree wrote: post #6

I’ve used it at Meta. It’s very bad, if they released it in its current state it would be laughed at. I imagine they need to improve quality massively before it’s viable to release.

But didn't Zuck say it will replace junior to mid level engineers on Joe Rogan podcast or something ?

And look what else that podcast has brought us.

Re: Meta Keeps Delaying the Release of Its New AI Model to Developers

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Post by [deleted] »

anonym00se1 wrote: post #14
zeroonetwothree wrote: post #6

I’ve used it at Meta. It’s very bad, if they released it in its current state it would be laughed at. I imagine they need to improve quality massively before it’s viable to release.

This is what I suspected. Wang was a generationally bad hire. He has Meta SWEs making $250k+/year labeling data in AAI. He has exactly one move and it's this: https://i.imgflip.com/atotpp.jpg

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Re: Meta Keeps Delaying the Release of Its New AI Model to Developers

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Post by DonsDiscountGas »

enahs-sf wrote: post #2

Occam’s razor tells me it’s probably because it’s not good. Perhaps running a company like survivor in a pressure cooker is not an effective management strategy.

Seemed to work when it comes to selling ads. I'm thinking training LLMs is harder than anthropic and openai make it look
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