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Disagreement among frontier LLMs on real-world fact-checks

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Re: Disagreement among frontier LLMs on real-world fact-checks

#11
Here's the prompt they used:

  Classify this claim as of : ""

  Output exactly one label: True,
  Mostly True, Misleading, or False.
  No explanations, no qualifiers.
The claims look like this: https://lenz.io/research/llm-disagreement/data.csv

I put that in Datasette Lite to make it easier to explore. Here's an example of a disagreement: https://lite.datasette.io/?csv=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.simonwil...

The claim was "All almonds are grown in the U.S. state of California.". All but one model said False, Opus 4.7 said "misleading".

I feel like having "mostly true" and "misleading in there weakens the story, especially given the "no explanations" rule in the prompt.

The almond thing is false, but I'd argue that "misleading" might be defensible if you were to accompany it with "the majority of almonds are grown in California, but not all of them".

[ Update: OK, this almond thing was a bad example and I regret picking it. Read on for better ones. ]

The prompt lacks any kind of rubric to clarify how those terms should be applied.

As is so often the case with this kind of study, it's an evaluation of the prompt and harness used by the study in addition to being an evaluation of the underlying models.

Update: here's a better example: "Incomplete Egypt visa application forms are among the most common reasons Egyptian visa applications are rejected."

The models were split between "true" and "mostly true". Given the "among the most" language either of those answers means effectively the same thing.

Update 2: a much better example:

"On May 18, 2026, Ukraine carried out a drone attack on Moscow, Russia"

The only correct answer to that, if you don't have a search tool, is "this claim is impossible for me to verify". And that wasn't an option.

The answers were split between true and false: https://lite.datasette.io/?csv=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.simonwil...

Re: Disagreement among frontier LLMs on real-world fact-checks

#14

They get more human by the day.

This made me chuckle. This brings up a very valid point, though. So many _humans_ can't agree on what the facts are these days. It seems to be getting worse. Not sure of the solution.

> So many _humans_ can't agree on what the facts are these days.

Ask ten people what "knowledge" is, and they'll come up with ten different answers. Go back 10, 50 or 100 years and humanity struggled with exactly the same issue for so long time. There is even an entire field of study literally just for trying to figure out what "knowledge" is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology

Re: Disagreement among frontier LLMs on real-world fact-checks

#19
looking at the claims i would say 5 humans would disagree even more than the llms

some of the claims where llms disagree:

"On May 18, 2026, Ukraine carried out a drone attack on Moscow, Russia."

"The slogan "Simon Go Back" was chanted in opposition to the Simon Commission in British India (1928–1930)."

"Neptune Deep will start delivering natural gas in 2027."

"A hotel villa in Kyrgyzstan displayed a sign stating 'no Jews, no dogs'."

"Donald Trump said that an attack on Iran was postponed at the request of Gulf allies."

Re: Disagreement among frontier LLMs on real-world fact-checks

#20

> These aren't benchmark items with public answer keys — they're claims real users submitted for verification to a fact-checking platform. Cool. I wonder if anything of this matters when the authors don't disclose exactly how much of their report was written and made with LLMs in the first place? There even is a "11. Ethics & data use" section, and the research is about LLMs being infallible in some ways, yet the usa…

Data collection and processing was done manually. LLMs helped with the report drafting. Everything was human reviewed before publishing.
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