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MiMo-V2.5 Series Input (Cache Hit) Input (Cache Miss) Output mimo-v2.5-pro $0.0036 $0.435 $0.87 mimo-v2.5 $0.0028 $0.14 $0.28
Deepseek V4 Flash: $0.0028, $0.14, $0.28
Deepseek V4 Pro: $0.145, $1.74, $3.48
GPT 5.5: $0.5, $5, 430
GPT 5.5 Pro: $0.5, $30, $180
Claude Sonnet 4.6: $0.30, $3, $15
Claude 4.7 Opus: $0.5, $5, $25
This is because the users are training the product. They need training data, so they sell inference at the price of power.
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I wonder how much of DeepSeek and Xiaomi's pricing cuts can be traced back to cheap energy in China.
In China the state and corporations can blend so it's difficult to tell the difference between the two. It is known for government sponsored dumping to meet some state goal or another.
This is because the users are training the product. They need training data, so they sell inference at the price of power.
ChatGPT (the setting is shared with Codex) and Claude (shared with Claude Code) also have sharing enabled by default, so why aren't they cheaper?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
In China the state and corporations can blend so it's difficult to tell the difference between the two. It is known for government sponsored dumping to meet some state goal or another.
This runs counter to the last 50 years of American propaganda espousing the inefficiency of government. If the Chinese government can just throw money at industries and have them flourish, why can't other governments?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
In China the state and corporations can blend so it's difficult to tell the difference between the two. It is known for government sponsored dumping to meet some state goal or another.
This runs counter to the last 50 years of American propaganda espousing the inefficiency of government. If the Chinese government can just throw money at industries and have them flourish, why can't other governments?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
In China the state and corporations can blend so it's difficult to tell the difference between the two. It is known for government sponsored dumping to meet some state goal or another.
This runs counter to the last 50 years of American propaganda espousing the inefficiency of government. If the Chinese government can just throw money at industries and have them flourish, why can't other governments?
I wonder how much of DeepSeek and Xiaomi's pricing cuts can be traced back to cheap energy in China.
The real reason: anthropic + openai just cut the reasoning output to prevent distill, and hence you see the rise of chinese models to establish contracts globally .
This is because the users are training the product. They need training data, so they sell inference at the price of power.
ChatGPT (the setting is shared with Codex) and Claude (shared with Claude Code) also have sharing enabled by default, so why aren't they cheaper?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
This runs counter to the last 50 years of American propaganda espousing the inefficiency of government. If the Chinese government can just throw money at industries and have them flourish, why can't other governments?
The Chinese economy is deeply weird from a western perspective. Culture and economics are not orthogonal.