It's sort of ironic that all the money going to "teach Bambu a lesson" is ultimately defending a guy who is building free tooling that specifically adds value to the Bambu platform. In a sense they win either way.
'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing
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Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing
#12Serious question, I have a Bambulab printer now. What is a good next printer option? Prusa is way too expensive without a decent AMS alternative. Flashforge is doing some sketchy stuff with their maker site + AI. Is Creality or QIDI the best next options?
I’ve owned half a dozen printers (Prusa, Bambu, and Creality) and help manage a hackerspace with a print farm of mixed brands, and I won’t personally touch any brand other than Prusa now for actually getting prints done. There’s plenty of other printers that can do the same or better and/or cheaper if you want “building and managing the printer” to be half the hobby, which is a totally fair thing and can be lots of f…
That used to be the case. Less so now - the Chinese brands tend to work right out of the box.
I run an Elegoo Centauri Carbon ar home, and the building and managing process was unscrewing couple transport bolts and clicking "self calibrate" button. From what I've seen, Creality is the same way now too.
Yes, the old Ender 3 I used to have demanded attention every other print. But it's not the norm now.
I'm sure Prusa makes a better product, and it probably starts to make economic sense if you run a print farm. But for home use, a 300€ box that happily melts plastic into whatever shape I need is a sweet deal. It even has a 50€ multi material extension box now, however that's on months long backorder.
Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing
#13It's sort of ironic that all the money going to "teach Bambu a lesson" is ultimately defending a guy who is building free tooling that specifically adds value to the Bambu platform. In a sense they win either way.
On one hand, sure. On the other hand, it seems Bambu Lab's intentions are to lock down their ecosystem and extract rent (ala HP and printer ink).
So, if the Vizio case works out for OSS licenses, then Bambu Lab's likely won't be able to lock things down in the way they're intending (unless they expend significant effort to rewrite code).
That'd "stop" them from winning in the way they'd like, to the benefit of the wider Community of Bambu Labs users.
Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing
#14So Bambu's argument hinges on "impersonation" claim of Jarczak's modified client using the same user agent string? If a user compiles official BambuStudio from source, does BambuLabs then also claim their non-bit-identical client is also impersonating the "real" BambuStudio? Or are they abusing user agents strings as authentication mechanism? If they don't consider it abuse, but rather legitimate use of agent strings…
I think the weak precedent here is Apple vs Palm:
Palm devices pretended to be iPods so that users could use iTunes to copy music to them. Apple threatened legal action and Palm backed down.
Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing
#15Serious question, I have a Bambulab printer now. What is a good next printer option? Prusa is way too expensive without a decent AMS alternative. Flashforge is doing some sketchy stuff with their maker site + AI. Is Creality or QIDI the best next options?
INDX is an up and coming option that will probably change how multimaterial printing done, hopefully. I bought the founder edition but it will be a long time coming. As an aspiring business owner, I am looking to transition to a more open printer as the OCL isn't something I want to rely on.
What’s wrong with the OCL if you’re a business owner?
Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing
#16So Bambu's argument hinges on "impersonation" claim of Jarczak's modified client using the same user agent string? If a user compiles official BambuStudio from source, does BambuLabs then also claim their non-bit-identical client is also impersonating the "real" BambuStudio? Or are they abusing user agents strings as authentication mechanism? If they don't consider it abuse, but rather legitimate use of agent strings…
I mean if you do enter a legal case, they cannot just laugh away and be like "oh DoctorOetker such a silly case". They will have to take it seriously and follow all legal procedures. I don't know why people think law is some commonsense topic when it's highly technical and domain-based.
Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing
#17I wonder whether Bambu printers run Doom.
Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing
#18So Bambu's argument hinges on "impersonation" claim of Jarczak's modified client using the same user agent string? If a user compiles official BambuStudio from source, does BambuLabs then also claim their non-bit-identical client is also impersonating the "real" BambuStudio? Or are they abusing user agents strings as authentication mechanism? If they don't consider it abuse, but rather legitimate use of agent strings…
I think the weak precedent here is Apple vs Palm: Palm devices pretended to be iPods so that users could use iTunes to copy music to them. Apple threatened legal action and Palm backed down.
The ipods weren’t open source, however
Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
INDX is an up and coming option that will probably change how multimaterial printing done, hopefully. I bought the founder edition but it will be a long time coming. As an aspiring business owner, I am looking to transition to a more open printer as the OCL isn't something I want to rely on.
What’s wrong with the OCL if you’re a business owner?
I don't want to ask Prusa for permission.
Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing
#20Serious question, I have a Bambulab printer now. What is a good next printer option? Prusa is way too expensive without a decent AMS alternative. Flashforge is doing some sketchy stuff with their maker site + AI. Is Creality or QIDI the best next options?
I’ve owned half a dozen printers (Prusa, Bambu, and Creality) and help manage a hackerspace with a print farm of mixed brands, and I won’t personally touch any brand other than Prusa now for actually getting prints done. There’s plenty of other printers that can do the same or better and/or cheaper if you want “building and managing the printer” to be half the hobby, which is a totally fair thing and can be lots of f…
building and managing a printer is far from a hobby. it's like the Linux desktop people who just fight with their system instead of enjoying MacOS.