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Why We've Filed a Referendum
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Re: Why We've Filed a Referendum
#12Obviously, it's fine to be wary of any development in your area. But it seems like there is a certain amount of irrational(?) fear of datacenters. And I really don't understand it. I saw a poll recently that people would rather live near a nuclear power plan than a datacenter. That's... their choice, of course, but doesn't seem logical to me. I have heard several "concern stories" about them on NPR recently. Maybe th…
They're big, use up a lot of power, destroy a large batch of land, produce noise and locals get basically nothing out of that (it's not like they provide a lot of jobs or anything). The power bills also go up.
Re: Why We've Filed a Referendum
#13Utah hasn’t voted for a Democrat president since Johnson. Reap what you sow.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Watch these https://youtu.be/_bP80DEAbuo?si=4XpIb0vb8YjY1g_k https://youtu.be/t-8TDOFqkQA?si=EB8zAF0JYHvOB23a https://youtu.be/3VJT2JeDCyw?si=ak7haiWzbX9O8BL9 Then, tell me if you want to live anywhere near those. Then, tell me of a nuclear power plant that has that bad a repo.
Have you read the responses to (at least) the first of these videos? https://blog.andymasley.com/p/contra-benn-jordan-data-center... Also, I thought the response by Benn Jordan on Bluesky was informative. https://blog.andymasley.com/p/contra-benn-jordan-data-center...
It would be helpful if you didn't post rebuttals from people with a massive financial incentive to do so.
Re: Why We've Filed a Referendum
#15Obviously, it's fine to be wary of any development in your area. But it seems like there is a certain amount of irrational(?) fear of datacenters. And I really don't understand it. I saw a poll recently that people would rather live near a nuclear power plan than a datacenter. That's... their choice, of course, but doesn't seem logical to me. I have heard several "concern stories" about them on NPR recently. Maybe th…
You’re saying it as if living near a nuclear power plant is bad or something
Re: Why We've Filed a Referendum
#16Obviously, it's fine to be wary of any development in your area. But it seems like there is a certain amount of irrational(?) fear of datacenters. And I really don't understand it. I saw a poll recently that people would rather live near a nuclear power plan than a datacenter. That's... their choice, of course, but doesn't seem logical to me. I have heard several "concern stories" about them on NPR recently. Maybe th…
The resource consumption is huge and it provides relatively little to the surrounding community compared to its intake. For most residents who live near one it’s a net loss. Qualify of life decreases and utility bills go up so that a Silicon Valley exec can get a nice bonus for closing the deal.
A nuclear plant creates energy and a decent amount of jobs, while a data center’s value is dubious to the average human and the data center barely brings in any jobs.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you read the responses to (at least) the first of these videos? https://blog.andymasley.com/p/contra-benn-jordan-data-center... Also, I thought the response by Benn Jordan on Bluesky was informative. https://blog.andymasley.com/p/contra-benn-jordan-data-center...
It would be helpful if you didn't post rebuttals from people with a massive financial incentive to do so.
Ad homniems aside, is the accusation even accurate? So far as I can tell he doesn't obviously have "a massive financial incentive to do so", like he's a VC investor in anthropic or whatever. He does seem to be bullish on AI in general, but I'm not sure why that'd be a disqualification for someone on the pro-ai camp any more than someone who's interested in retaining their property values or whatever would be a disqualifier for the anti-ai camp.
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#18Obviously, it's fine to be wary of any development in your area. But it seems like there is a certain amount of irrational(?) fear of datacenters. And I really don't understand it. I saw a poll recently that people would rather live near a nuclear power plan than a datacenter. That's... their choice, of course, but doesn't seem logical to me. I have heard several "concern stories" about them on NPR recently. Maybe th…
In a town near me a paper plant recently closed (to much anger), then people protested the potential use of the land for a data center, citing concerns about noise, water use, power use, and traffic.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you read the responses to (at least) the first of these videos? https://blog.andymasley.com/p/contra-benn-jordan-data-center... Also, I thought the response by Benn Jordan on Bluesky was informative. https://blog.andymasley.com/p/contra-benn-jordan-data-center...
It would be helpful if you didn't post rebuttals from people with a massive financial incentive to do so.
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Re: Why We've Filed a Referendum
#20Obviously, it's fine to be wary of any development in your area. But it seems like there is a certain amount of irrational(?) fear of datacenters. And I really don't understand it. I saw a poll recently that people would rather live near a nuclear power plan than a datacenter. That's... their choice, of course, but doesn't seem logical to me. I have heard several "concern stories" about them on NPR recently. Maybe th…
As someone who lives in Northern Virginia, it makes me furious to receive my electricity bill and see that even though I used less electricity than the same month last year, I am paying significantly more. And this happens every year. Do you think Virginia is adding solar, battery, and wind proportional to that additional power draw? Nope! It's natural gas and coal power imported from PA and WV. It would be one thing…
Could you share more about the rate increases? The newspaper articles I've seen seemed sketchy on how people were affected.