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Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by Asooka »

ceheaaf wrote: post #2

Didn't get past the paywall but, recently a friend had their primary school targeted by blackmailers who took public photos of children and made (I'm told) extremely explicit images with them, threatening to release them if not paid. What's the defense? Intelligent screening of incoming messages so that the threat never reaches the blackmail target? I imagine they'll find an unprotected channel. Don't post innocuous…

That is a clear-cut case of extortion. The defence is having the police do their job and apprehend the criminals in question. If you screen incoming messages and stop them from reaching their target, extortionists will switch to publicly releasing one risque image with threats of releasing more explicit ones. There is always an unprotected channel as you noted.

As an aside, please do not use the b-mail word. It is insensitive towards BIPOCs.

Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by suddenlybananas »

defrost wrote: post #7
ceheaaf wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm more thinking, the winning school sports team, a choir performing, etc. Things that would be posted in normal institutional participation and give children positive affirmation and recognition

Certainly in my lifetime we never posted such things publicly across the globe, neither for myself nor my peers, nor for my children and most of their peers at school. Such things were printed and handed out and rarely made it past that years parents and students and the school archive (physical visit required).

Getting in the newspaper or on TV for winning an award or competition or something has been around for a long time.

Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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ceheaaf wrote: post #2

Didn't get past the paywall but, recently a friend had their primary school targeted by blackmailers who took public photos of children and made (I'm told) extremely explicit images with them, threatening to release them if not paid. What's the defense? Intelligent screening of incoming messages so that the threat never reaches the blackmail target? I imagine they'll find an unprotected channel. Don't post innocuous…

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Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by hjkl0 »

This has nothing to do with “deepfakes”. These girls could have been attacked by aliens and be received with more credulity. There has to be a point where you understand that this behavior towards girls and women is simply being allowed.

One of the mothers says this quite explicitly:

> Calling the event rumors and speculation when a crime occurred was almost worse than the crime

Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by bandrami »

ceheaaf wrote: post #2

Didn't get past the paywall but, recently a friend had their primary school targeted by blackmailers who took public photos of children and made (I'm told) extremely explicit images with them, threatening to release them if not paid. What's the defense? Intelligent screening of incoming messages so that the threat never reaches the blackmail target? I imagine they'll find an unprotected channel. Don't post innocuous…

In the US possession of CSAM is a strict-liability crime. If the models contain the data to produce it, the modelmakers should be liable.

Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by hjkl0 »

ceheaaf wrote: post #2

Didn't get past the paywall but, recently a friend had their primary school targeted by blackmailers who took public photos of children and made (I'm told) extremely explicit images with them, threatening to release them if not paid. What's the defense? Intelligent screening of incoming messages so that the threat never reaches the blackmail target? I imagine they'll find an unprotected channel. Don't post innocuous…

> Don't post innocuous images of children ever?

Don’t raise boys who abuse girls. That’d be a big step in the right direction.

Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by ktallett »

This is sadly becoming very common and they are worringly good enough for people to assume they are real. I had a friend who had this issue, she has tried to ride it off as no clue who made them or shared them but I know it can't be easy for her. There needs to be appropriate laws for this the same way there is for revenge porn etc.

Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by CalRobert »

eska wrote: post #3
ceheaaf wrote: post #2

Didn't get past the paywall but, recently a friend had their primary school targeted by blackmailers who took public photos of children and made (I'm told) extremely explicit images with them, threatening to release them if not paid. What's the defense? Intelligent screening of incoming messages so that the threat never reaches the blackmail target? I imagine they'll find an unprotected channel. Don't post innocuous…

Don't post innocuous images of children ever? Seems like losing. I do have to say that I find it disturbing how liberally parents seem to post pictures of their children in public though. Respect the privacy of your children, they’re not your pets.

It's nice to see pictures of people. I like when parents share photos of my kids at events where they're having a great time but I couldn't make it. It's nice when the local paper shows a picture of happy graduating 8th graders.

Saying "you shouldn't do this thing that was basically harmless from the birth of photography until the ~2010's" is ignoring a lot of history and context.

Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by defrost »

suddenlybananas wrote: post #12
defrost wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Certainly in my lifetime we never posted such things publicly across the globe, neither for myself nor my peers, nor for my children and most of their peers at school. Such things were printed and handed out and rarely made it past that years parents and students and the school archive (physical visit required).

Getting in the newspaper or on TV for winning an award or competition or something has been around for a long time.

For the very rare few, yes, a fair while.

For the Dux's and general high performers, less time than I've been alive.

For entire classrooms to be posted up via live streams, Insta, tok's, etc ... barely a decade or so.

It's not something that was always normal, and just because it's become "normalised" doesn't mean it must remain that way.

Re: Deepfakes Tore a High School Apart

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Post by CalRobert »

I don't know how society will function when it's as easy to fake a video or image as it is to draw a stick figure. Hopefully it at least means that people view what happened here as akin to scribbling boobs on someone's photo, but we're not there yet apparently.
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