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Re: Buy Nothing Day

#11
You get to feel good about not buying stuff, and then the next day you still get to buy stuff!

Alright, alright, they do have better ideas for a "delay gratification" message. Credit card cut-up (pre-commitment) and zombie walks (exposure) sound like good ideas.

Don't make a day about not doing something negative, make it about doing something positive. Don't turn off your power for a day, spend a day installing better insulation so you need less power.

Re: Buy Nothing Day

#12
post #3

“Today, humanity faces a stark choice: save the planet and ditch capitalism, or save capitalism and ditch the planet.” Move to North Korea, everyday is buy nothing day and best of all, none of that horrid capitalism.

A culture can stop being capitalistic and consumer-driven without becoming a fear driven dictatorship.

Do you equate spending money with freedom and civil liberties? Is that the only way for you and I to be free, is to buy things?

Re: Buy Nothing Day

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post #3

“Today, humanity faces a stark choice: save the planet and ditch capitalism, or save capitalism and ditch the planet.” Move to North Korea, everyday is buy nothing day and best of all, none of that horrid capitalism.

A culture can stop being capitalistic and consumer-driven without becoming a fear driven dictatorship. Do you equate spending money with freedom and civil liberties? Is that the only way for you and I to be free, is to buy things?

Economic liberty seems to be a precondition for strong civil liberties, although certainly not sufficient.

Also, class mobility seems to be most likely in a society with high economic activity, since there is a lot of demand to be filled and therefore the opportunity to fill it.

Re: Buy Nothing Day

#15
post #3

“Today, humanity faces a stark choice: save the planet and ditch capitalism, or save capitalism and ditch the planet.” Move to North Korea, everyday is buy nothing day and best of all, none of that horrid capitalism.

A culture can stop being capitalistic and consumer-driven without becoming a fear driven dictatorship. Do you equate spending money with freedom and civil liberties? Is that the only way for you and I to be free, is to buy things?

Yes, the only way you can be free is to be free to produce, buy and sell things. And to do a million other activities that other people might not find virtuous.

Re: Buy Nothing Day

#16

You know, I wasn't actually thinking about doing any shopping today. But if Anonymous and Occupy have gotten on the bandwagon, I think I may just have to stop by my local Wal-Mart and take advantage of some of those deals.

I had an instant anti reaction when I saw the mask and the #occupy

Re: Buy Nothing Day

#17
post #7
post #2

Funny that this is so high up on Hacker News. The first quote on the page: “Today, humanity faces a stark choice: save the planet and ditch capitalism, or save capitalism and ditch the planet.” There won't be too many startup accelerators or funding rounds when we ditch capitalism, folks. Funny how there was none of this talk on iPhone Launch Day, either...

But there will be untold millions for those lucky enough to win the political patronage lottery.

No one is claiming that we can't or shouldn't try to fix the problems with the system.

Re: Buy Nothing Day

#18
post #9

People who think it's bad to want the world economy to grow probably haven't stopped to think about what economic growth consists of. Economic growth isn't just fat Americans buying bigger SUVs. It's also people in poor countries increasing their standard of living, and advances in medical care.

could there be a case however against economic growth being too fast? an example of too fast would be building a chernobyl before the safety infrastructure was up.

Re: Buy Nothing Day

#19
Is it just me that's sick and tired of all these extreme all or nothing causes? It's either no patents or leave it the same, it's either capitalism is all bad or all good, it's either we are saving the planet or burning it as we go.

You know we can just change certain laws in the patent system to get it fixed right?

You understand that the idea of someone being able to sale their hard work for a living isn't evil right?

Or that maybe just making a true concerted effort of a smaller carbon footprint is enough? We don't need to ban all gas lines, or coal and replace it all with solar wind farms.

Consider this, we are fighting other people's ideals with equally extreme ideals and then wonder why the world doesn't see our brilliance. They think all of torrenting technology is evil because it allows for easier "unauthorized" access of someone else's creative content. It's a tool people. Capitalism isn't bad, overly greedy people are bad, and they just happen to love capitalism.

It's called moderation.

Re: Buy Nothing Day

#20

I buy nothing about 95% of the days in a year. I don't get why this is supposed to make such a difference?

This leaves 18 days per year to buy things, each 20 days from the last. Do you grow your own food, or do you eat only nonperishables?
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