Its actually inherited from portugese and spanish culture, where protestant puntuality is sort of viewd as a "slave" or servant mentality (which in protestant culture where "you" are equal with all before god is just not a thing). A nobleman is the lord of his own time and sets his own appointment, can be found in all spanish colonies and in the morher countries.
> protestant culture where "you" are equal with all Can you explain this concept? If I was in Brazil and invited to a bbq at 8pm, how would the host respond if I asked “so what time do you actually want me to arrive”?
The physicists who convinced Fermilab to send Brazil's emails
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#12Its actually inherited from portugese and spanish culture, where protestant puntuality is sort of viewd as a "slave" or servant mentality (which in protestant culture where "you" are equal with all before god is just not a thing). A nobleman is the lord of his own time and sets his own appointment, can be found in all spanish colonies and in the morher countries.
How does this work in the Brazilian military? I can’t imagine they show up whenever they wish.
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#13Gosh, what a badly written article, despite the theme being interesting
"In the end, all it took to break the impasse was a few copper wires, laid across the Gulf of Mexico to a high-energy physics lab just outside of Chicago, in 1991." Make it make sense. Either in how Chicago is close to the Gulf, Brazil is on the Gulf, or in 1991 having a working wire thousands of miles long qualifies as a throwaway "all it took."
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
"In the end, all it took to break the impasse was a few copper wires, laid across the Gulf of Mexico to a high-energy physics lab just outside of Chicago, in 1991." Make it make sense. Either in how Chicago is close to the Gulf, Brazil is on the Gulf, or in 1991 having a working wire thousands of miles long qualifies as a throwaway "all it took."
Deliberate understatement is sometimes deployed for humorous intent.
But maybe not in the case of "all it took to get the internet connected was connecting the internet."
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
> protestant culture where "you" are equal with all Can you explain this concept? If I was in Brazil and invited to a bbq at 8pm, how would the host respond if I asked “so what time do you actually want me to arrive”?
You can go on time if you want to help out preparing the party. If you ask what time the party really starts, they will probably tell you 30 minutes to an hour after the official time, which is how long they expect to spend getting things ready. Some people come 2 hours late because they want to arrive when the party is already “hot”. The early hours tend to be “boring” as everyone is just arriving slowly, helping pu…
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
> protestant culture where "you" are equal with all Can you explain this concept? If I was in Brazil and invited to a bbq at 8pm, how would the host respond if I asked “so what time do you actually want me to arrive”?
You can go on time if you want to help out preparing the party. If you ask what time the party really starts, they will probably tell you 30 minutes to an hour after the official time, which is how long they expect to spend getting things ready. Some people come 2 hours late because they want to arrive when the party is already “hot”. The early hours tend to be “boring” as everyone is just arriving slowly, helping pu…
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#17A group of us arrived in Sao Paulo on Thursday (before the course was scheduled to start on Monday) to begin configuring the machine -- downloading/transferring software and databases. We did not trust the internet, so we brought the stuff we needed on a laptop.
We got there thursday, to find out that despite a 6 month lead-time, the machine had not been delivered. Not only that, the weekend we planned to configure the machine, the power to the campus was scheduled to be shut off so that some of the 60+ year old infrastructure could be replaced (our host got a special dispensation to keep the power on in the building we were using). After many frantic calls, the machine was delivered around 5:00 pm on Friday. We worked frantically through the weekend, and managed to get a few things working, a few hours before our first computer lab. Fun times.
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#18For context, by 1975 Brazil was still aproximately halfway under the brutal military dictatorship that started in 1964, through a military coup supported by Operation Brother Sam[1], and ended only in the late 80s. The movie "The Secret Agent", Oscar nominated in the 2026 ceremony, unfolds in 1977, roughly the same timeframe. It would be a very interesting topic for historical research to comb national files from that period to see if the military surveiled or acted against the named researchers, in some form, for those first attempts to conect to the proto-internet.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
How does this work in the Brazilian military? I can’t imagine they show up whenever they wish.
No. Work in general requires punctuality unless you’re boss, of course.