AI companies can download books but people can't? Is that right?
You’re absolutely right.
Anna's Archive hit with $19.5M default judgment and global domain takedown order
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#12Since when does a judge in NY get to tell Greenland they can't have their registrar sell to Anna's Archive?
There is a long history of judges thinking that they can render judgments internationally. (Not just in the US, either.) I suspect it's more performance art than an actual expectation that the judgment will do anything.
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#13Next week American ISP's will block Annas-archive, people use VPN's, they get confused. The cycle goes on
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#14AI companies can download books but people can't? Is that right?
They have a music archive, which historically means bad business.
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#15So what stops them from just changing it to NotAnna's Archive and operating under that domain?
Nana's Archive would have a nice cozy feel to it
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#16Since when does a judge in NY get to tell Greenland they can't have their registrar sell to Anna's Archive?
There is a long history of judges thinking that they can render judgments internationally. (Not just in the US, either.) I suspect it's more performance art than an actual expectation that the judgment will do anything.
also treaties I imagine?
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#17Since when does a judge in NY get to tell Greenland they can't have their registrar sell to Anna's Archive?
There is a long history of judges thinking that they can render judgments internationally. (Not just in the US, either.) I suspect it's more performance art than an actual expectation that the judgment will do anything.
It’s not as weird or US-specific as always assumed. If someone brings a case in a US jurisdiction the judge isn’t going to say, “Sorry, they’re international, they’re free to commit those crimes.” They issue a judgment according to the law and leave the enforcement to the limits of jurisdiction.
These judgments aren’t always pointless. Many Internet companies and services intersect with the US in some way, so there could be an angle where this impacts them.
Businesses operating strictly in other countries don’t need to comply with foreign laws except in cases where they need to do business with those countries, at which point it becomes complicated and they may choose to comply to avoid problems or sanctions.
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#18AI companies can download books but people can't? Is that right?
AI companies were cited as a reason in the case:
> The publishers argued that, in addition to sharing pirated books with the public, the shadow library is serving as a primary training data hub for AI companies like Meta and NVIDIA.
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#19AI companies can download books but people can't? Is that right?
As much as I would like to socialize LLMs and ban proprietary LLMs, I'm pretty sure the issue here is with the distribution of the books.
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#20Since when does a judge in NY get to tell Greenland they can't have their registrar sell to Anna's Archive?
This is nothing new. Remember when the US pressured Sweden into taking down the pirate bay (Very unsuccessfully)? Using global influence to get countries to do something that they would not do on their own has always been the case.