This reminds me of the second half of the Hyperion cantos by Dan Simmons
Pope Leo XIV’s first encyclical Magnifica humanitas to be published May 25
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Re: Pope Leo XIV’s first encyclical Magnifica humanitas to be published May 25
#12The title seems to be editorialized. To me, it makes it sound like Christopher Olah (the mentioned Anthropic co-founder) is a co-author. Instead he is going to be one of several speakers present when the encyclical is released.
yeah 'anthropic employee to appear on panel'
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#13For anyone concerned about the growing power of giant corporations, the fact that they're doing joint statements with religious leaders is...wow. Regardless of content, it seems an extra step in solidifying where power lies.
That is just what the (edited) title makes it sound like. The article states that Christopher Olah will be a speaker present at the encyclical release. It does not imply that he had any hand or influence in the content.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
My guess is that it (re)affirms that LLMs don't have souls and only people do. If you've read any Vatican publications, the theme is being the authority on the ontology of reality. EDIT: A decree for bioethics https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/docu... I'd expect a similar deal for AI.
I have met many people who don't seem to have a soul.
Heretic!
Re: Pope Leo XIV’s first encyclical Magnifica humanitas to be published May 25
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
My guess is that it (re)affirms that LLMs don't have souls and only people do. If you've read any Vatican publications, the theme is being the authority on the ontology of reality. EDIT: A decree for bioethics https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/docu... I'd expect a similar deal for AI.
I have met many people who don't seem to have a soul.
> Ankh-Morpork! Brawling city of a hundred thousand souls! And, as the Patrician privately observed, ten times that number of actual people.
-- Guards! Guards! by Terry Pratchett
Re: Pope Leo XIV’s first encyclical Magnifica humanitas to be published May 25
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
My guess is that it (re)affirms that LLMs don't have souls and only people do. If you've read any Vatican publications, the theme is being the authority on the ontology of reality. EDIT: A decree for bioethics https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/docu... I'd expect a similar deal for AI.
I have met many people who don't seem to have a soul.
All of the people who I agree with are ensouled, all of them I disagree with are not.
Re: Pope Leo XIV’s first encyclical Magnifica humanitas to be published May 25
#17Amodei seems apropos
Re: Pope Leo XIV’s first encyclical Magnifica humanitas to be published May 25
#18I'm an atheist, but most of what I have heard from popes in recent years seems like sound and possibly needed advice.
Also, even though I feel AI and robotics are very important for progressing humanity, I think that much of the world has long since lost a proper sense of intrinsic human value. It's really gone from overt exploitation to slightly more mild exploitation where we pretend the system is really merit based.
And as AI and robotics remove the need for human labor, I hope that someone like the pope can convince people that we should value human beings inherently and more fairly. Inexpensive labor and intelligence should make this feasible.
I hope the speech isn't something dumb like "remember only humans have souls" because I think that's really premature and pretty obvious that AIs are not people at this point.
The really convincing and somewhat deeper simulations of humans are probably only a few years down the line though.
Which comes back to the Rovelli dualism article that was on the front page before. I think we should not be in a hurry to try to duplicate humans in depth (such as imitating emotions, pain, stream of consciousness, self-preservation, etc). It's just completely unnecessary to go that far to get useful AI, and obviously unethical to subject a real human emulation to slavery.
Re: Pope Leo XIV’s first encyclical Magnifica humanitas to be published May 25
#19The title seems to be editorialized. To me, it makes it sound like Christopher Olah (the mentioned Anthropic co-founder) is a co-author. Instead he is going to be one of several speakers present when the encyclical is released.
Agree, the introduction from article:
> Pope Leo XIV’s first encyclical, Magnifica humanitas, on preserving the human person in the age of artificial intelligence, will be released on May 25. A presentation event with the Pope and various speakers is scheduled for the same day at the Vatican.
Among the "various speakers" is Christopher Olah. But hard to express under 80 characters I bet.
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#20It's a tall order to live up to the impact of Rerum novarum, the encyclical by the former Pope Leo that greatly guided thinking out of the industrial revolution. Personally, I'm excited to read this. If we take the claims of most AI labs at face value, they believe their work will fundamentally change the relationship between humans and the economy. More involvement from faith leaders is a good thing.
I mean, the industrial revolution probably could have gone a little better.