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Iran will impose fees on subsea internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

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Re: Iran will impose fees on subsea internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

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Post by chadgpt3 »

mikestew wrote: post #2

"Esfandiary, of Bloomberg Economics, said Iran “theoretically knew” it had leverage over the strait but was uncertain how significant the impact would be if it acted on those threats. Now, she added, Tehran “has discovered the impact.” The thing that mystifies me is that U. S. war planners "theoretically knew" this, too; at least, I would assume. The whole war strikes me as the current administration finding out the…

The current regime is staunchly anti-intellectual and regularly believes things are false solely because scientists say they are true.

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Post by realusername »

mikestew wrote: post #2

"Esfandiary, of Bloomberg Economics, said Iran “theoretically knew” it had leverage over the strait but was uncertain how significant the impact would be if it acted on those threats. Now, she added, Tehran “has discovered the impact.” The thing that mystifies me is that U. S. war planners "theoretically knew" this, too; at least, I would assume. The whole war strikes me as the current administration finding out the…

It's always the same with the US, the US always overestimate raw military power and underestimate local and strategic conditions.

All the previous wars got lost the exact same way.

Trump is losing the same way the US lost in Afghanistan, Irak, Vietnam, Korea... Just faster than any anybody else.

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Post by abrowne »

mikestew wrote: post #2

"Esfandiary, of Bloomberg Economics, said Iran “theoretically knew” it had leverage over the strait but was uncertain how significant the impact would be if it acted on those threats. Now, she added, Tehran “has discovered the impact.” The thing that mystifies me is that U. S. war planners "theoretically knew" this, too; at least, I would assume. The whole war strikes me as the current administration finding out the…

14-month old article headline, but hasn't aged a bit:

American Foreign Policy Is Being Run by the Dumbest Motherfuckers Alive

(Daniel W. Drezner https://danieldrezner.substack.com/p/american-foreign-policy...)

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Post by spankalee »

lonely_wanderer wrote: post #5
mikestew wrote: post #2

"Esfandiary, of Bloomberg Economics, said Iran “theoretically knew” it had leverage over the strait but was uncertain how significant the impact would be if it acted on those threats. Now, she added, Tehran “has discovered the impact.” The thing that mystifies me is that U. S. war planners "theoretically knew" this, too; at least, I would assume. The whole war strikes me as the current administration finding out the…

I vacillate between two potential rationales: - there is a concerted effort to target and topple oil producers which China relies on as a form of containment of the Chinese economy. Venezuela, Iran, eventually Russia in a more direct way. The current administration is willing to accept economic pain for just about everyone because they see the transition from petroleum to green energies as the death knell for US supe…

The China point doesn't make any sense to me.

High oil prices only accelerate China's transition to renewables, and rewards them for all the investment they've made so far, both in national energy production and in selling panels and EVs to the world.

It hurts the US far more, especially with this admin's anti wind and solar policies.

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Post by grim_io »

mikestew wrote: post #2

"Esfandiary, of Bloomberg Economics, said Iran “theoretically knew” it had leverage over the strait but was uncertain how significant the impact would be if it acted on those threats. Now, she added, Tehran “has discovered the impact.” The thing that mystifies me is that U. S. war planners "theoretically knew" this, too; at least, I would assume. The whole war strikes me as the current administration finding out the…

In the time of their declining empire, the US got late stage Nero instead of Marcus Aurelius.

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Post by throwaway85825 »

JohnMakin wrote: post #3
mikestew wrote: post #2

"Esfandiary, of Bloomberg Economics, said Iran “theoretically knew” it had leverage over the strait but was uncertain how significant the impact would be if it acted on those threats. Now, she added, Tehran “has discovered the impact.” The thing that mystifies me is that U. S. war planners "theoretically knew" this, too; at least, I would assume. The whole war strikes me as the current administration finding out the…

> The thing that mystifies me is that U. S. war planners "theoretically knew" this, too; at least, I would assume. They would have, because this has been wargamed and written about for decades. It's playing out exactly as expected, which is why no US administration until this one was willing to go to an outright hot war with Iran. Unfortunately, this war dept and admin has a staggering amount of hubris, incompetency,…

Not legally an ally under any treaty.

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Post by gpt5 »

While folks here are quick to jump to blaming the US for this, it's also worth noting that the US is the one that has been enforcing international order so far.

So it gives us a bit of a glimpse of what would the world would look like with a more isolationist US, or a multipolar world.

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Post by criddell »

lonely_wanderer wrote: post #6
jLaForest wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The purpose of this war is to distract from the Epstein files, and it's been very successful

I don’t think this argument really makes sense tbh. When you own the justice department and congress, what matter does it make? Epstein stuff was going to to stale regardless, as much as I hate that fact.

I don't think it's actually supposed to be an argument. It's just a Redditism that occasionally pops up here.
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