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Canada’s Bill C-22 would weaken protections on private messages

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Re: Canada’s Bill C-22 would weaken protections on private messages

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The weird thing about surveillance is it's targets. If you want an orderly society and to enforce the law, there are easy ways to do so w/ no additional resources or powers. You can just start by enforcing the law. Open air illegal drug use, retail theft and illegal encampments are issues that plague many big cities. Addressing them would greatly improve the lives of nearly everyone, but for whatever reason there is…

Those offences also include, as well as ‘hurty words’, threats to kill, bomb hoaxes and harassment matters.

The legislation covers all types of communications including phone calls and letters, and because the authors haven’t bothered to drill down into the stats it is impossible to pick out the ‘hurty word’ offences from (for example) someone threatening to rape and murder an MP on X, or engaging in a campaign of harassment against their ex-partner.

Re: Canada’s Bill C-22 would weaken protections on private messages

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post #7

The weird thing about surveillance is it's targets. If you want an orderly society and to enforce the law, there are easy ways to do so w/ no additional resources or powers. You can just start by enforcing the law. Open air illegal drug use, retail theft and illegal encampments are issues that plague many big cities. Addressing them would greatly improve the lives of nearly everyone, but for whatever reason there is…

I think we have a lot of evidence that police have no clue how to address retail theft.

Encampments and drug use should just be legal.

Re: Canada’s Bill C-22 would weaken protections on private messages

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post #8

What's Signal's planned response to this? Or what about older tools like GnuPG or OMEMO for XMPP?

Signal has said they'd "pull out of Canada" which I guess means delisting on the app store?

In combination with Google stance on what people call "sideloading", this is a serious concern for privacy.

I can keep my privacy just as well without Signal if I can't talk to anyone.

Re: Canada’s Bill C-22 would weaken protections on private messages

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post #7

The weird thing about surveillance is it's targets. If you want an orderly society and to enforce the law, there are easy ways to do so w/ no additional resources or powers. You can just start by enforcing the law. Open air illegal drug use, retail theft and illegal encampments are issues that plague many big cities. Addressing them would greatly improve the lives of nearly everyone, but for whatever reason there is…

Open air illegal drug use, retail theft and illegal encampments are not their own root cause, and "keeping these repeat criminals in prisons longer" will only worsen the socioeconomic conditions which compel others to engage in this activities.
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