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Why tiny Stockholm has the most stunning startup ecosystem since Tel Aviv

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Re: Why tiny Stockholm has the most stunning startup ecosystem since Tel Aviv

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I love Stockholm. It's an awesome city and despite the high taxes, it's very progressive in terms of trends. In other words, there are many early adopters there, which is something that is very unique to SV.

Also, much of Swedish design is built on simplicity. You can see this everywhere from web design, to store design and of course furniture. The only downside, as others have pointed out, is that its extremely expensive.

EDIT: Discrepancies around definitions of conservatism.

Re: Why tiny Stockholm has the most stunning startup ecosystem since Tel Aviv

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post #11

I love Stockholm. It's an awesome city and despite the high taxes, it's very progressive in terms of trends. In other words, there are many early adopters there, which is something that is very unique to SV. Also, much of Swedish design is built on simplicity. You can see this everywhere from web design, to store design and of course furniture. The only downside, as others have pointed out, is that its extremely expe…

In what ways do you consider Sweden a conservative country? It is very socially liberal and while it's finances are run mostly sanely, it has a huge re-distributive welfare state.

Re: Why tiny Stockholm has the most stunning startup ecosystem since Tel Aviv

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post #11

I love Stockholm. It's an awesome city and despite the high taxes, it's very progressive in terms of trends. In other words, there are many early adopters there, which is something that is very unique to SV. Also, much of Swedish design is built on simplicity. You can see this everywhere from web design, to store design and of course furniture. The only downside, as others have pointed out, is that its extremely expe…

In what ways do you consider Sweden a conservative country? It is very socially liberal and while it's finances are run mostly sanely, it has a huge re-distributive welfare state.

Often in many countries conservatives = high taxes, welfare state. Not on the social issues though.

Re: Why tiny Stockholm has the most stunning startup ecosystem since Tel Aviv

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post #11

I love Stockholm. It's an awesome city and despite the high taxes, it's very progressive in terms of trends. In other words, there are many early adopters there, which is something that is very unique to SV. Also, much of Swedish design is built on simplicity. You can see this everywhere from web design, to store design and of course furniture. The only downside, as others have pointed out, is that its extremely expe…

In what ways do you consider Sweden a conservative country? It is very socially liberal and while it's finances are run mostly sanely, it has a huge re-distributive welfare state.

Conservative in the sense that they are trying to preserve continuity and stability. Probably not the best choice of words on my part. I'll edit it out.

Re: Why tiny Stockholm has the most stunning startup ecosystem since Tel Aviv

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Yay Stockholm! Another Stockholm start-up that looks interesting is Gavagai http://gavagai.se/

And there is CLX Networks (http://www.clxnetworks.com/), on Wired UK's list of hottest 100 European startups (September issue).

And Telepo (http://telepo.se/).

Re: Why tiny Stockholm has the most stunning startup ecosystem since Tel Aviv

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post #8

1.4 million in the urban area and 2.1 million in the metropolitan area is not exactly tiny. Tel Aviv is for example smaller, but I guess that the comparison is to the bay area/silicon valley or something like that.

Tel Aviv is probarbly larger than Stockholm though. The Swedish definition of "metropolitan" area is skewed, it consists of several cities and according to wikipedia its 6,519 km2 that is compared to Tel Avivs metropolian area of 1,516 km2. Still Tel Avivs has a metropolitan population of 3.4 million people compared to Stockholm's 2.1 million.

Stockholm is located on a group of islands on the other hand which impacts the surface area.

Re: Why tiny Stockholm has the most stunning startup ecosystem since Tel Aviv

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what ways do you consider Sweden a conservative country? It is very socially liberal and while it's finances are run mostly sanely, it has a huge re-distributive welfare state.

Often in many countries conservatives = high taxes, welfare state. Not on the social issues though.

Despite the fact that nominally conservative parties implement such policies does not make those policies 'conservative' in any meaningful political-history/ideological sense. Just like Obama renewing the Patriot Act doesn't make it liberal legislation.

Re: Why tiny Stockholm has the most stunning startup ecosystem since Tel Aviv

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post #11

I love Stockholm. It's an awesome city and despite the high taxes, it's very progressive in terms of trends. In other words, there are many early adopters there, which is something that is very unique to SV. Also, much of Swedish design is built on simplicity. You can see this everywhere from web design, to store design and of course furniture. The only downside, as others have pointed out, is that its extremely expe…

How high are the taxes in Sweden?

Highest bracket in Tel-Aviv is, as far as I know, ~60% (50% income tax + 10% health/social taxes) + 17% VAT (=~sales tax equivalent, essentially applicable to individuals but less so to companies)

Highest bracket in NYC as of 2013 (unless the "fiscal cliff" is averted) is a few % short of 60% (40% federal, 13% state, 2% fica, 2% social security, and a few more). If the fiscal cliff is averted, it's still 53% or so. + 8.5% sales tax. (sales tax applies everywhere)

Also, what do you get for these taxes?

In Israel, you get comprehensive universal healthcare (services paid by tax, drugs and medicines subsidized by tax), comprehensive public education - no tuition for high school, $3000/year tuition for public universities, $6000/year for private universities or colleges. (All Israeli universities are world class; most colleges aren't). You also get reasonable social security payments when you retire, and reasonable unemployment for 6 months or so after getting laid off (and unreasonable barely-but-enough-to-not-starve unemployment later). And also mandatory conscription when you reach 18, and the occasional bus bombing.

In NYC, you'll get free public schools (some of which are excellent and some of which are glorified babysitting institutions), and other than that ... mostly nothing. You're supposed to get social security payments when you retire, but the books don't balance (unlike the Israeli pension fund books, which do). You also get the occasional hurricane (but only one in the last 100 years had really been devastating - two in the last 106 years)

Re: Why tiny Stockholm has the most stunning startup ecosystem since Tel Aviv

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post #11

I love Stockholm. It's an awesome city and despite the high taxes, it's very progressive in terms of trends. In other words, there are many early adopters there, which is something that is very unique to SV. Also, much of Swedish design is built on simplicity. You can see this everywhere from web design, to store design and of course furniture. The only downside, as others have pointed out, is that its extremely expe…

In what ways do you consider Sweden a conservative country? It is very socially liberal and while it's finances are run mostly sanely, it has a huge re-distributive welfare state.

Its very conformist when compared to the UK or US where ecentrics are if not celebrated are at least tolerated.

I coudl think if a few ecentrics in the UK would woudl have probaly been locked up in sweaden - after all the way that the adult Lisbeth Salander is treated by social services did not come out of no where.

And Sweaden was the last first world country to practice the sterlisation of undesirables (only stoped in the 70's)

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