some studies even saying experience was irrelevant along with advanced degrees. so what do teachers need? big personalities?
Do teachers need advanced degrees?
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Re: Do teachers need advanced degrees?
#12Teaching salaries start at $48,112 on average. If schools want advanced degrees the industry needs to pay more, and that's beyond whatever adjustment the provide for holding an advanced degree.
They're already paid better than adjunct professors or grad students which is the normal career path for people with advanced degrees.
Re: Do teachers need advanced degrees?
#13Teaching salaries start at $48,112 on average. If schools want advanced degrees the industry needs to pay more, and that's beyond whatever adjustment the provide for holding an advanced degree.
When you overpay teachers, people who hate teaching, and hate being teachers, will become teachers for the money. Is a good idea to select the people who hate teaching to become teachers?
When you overpay CEOs, people who hate leading, and hate being CEOs, will become CEOs for the money.
Is a good idea to select the people who hate leading to become CEOs?
Re: Do teachers need advanced degrees?
#14Shouldn't need any degrees tbh, only the ability to do their job
Fwiw, in 1900 my grandfather taught school in Washington State. He was 16 years old.
I don't know how good he was, just saying it wasn't so long ago.
Re: Do teachers need advanced degrees?
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you overpay teachers, people who hate teaching, and hate being teachers, will become teachers for the money. Is a good idea to select the people who hate teaching to become teachers?
When you overpay CEOs, people who hate leading, and hate being CEOs, will become CEOs for the money. Is a good idea to select the people who hate leading to become CEOs?
Yes
Re: Do teachers need advanced degrees?
#16Teaching salaries start at $48,112 on average. If schools want advanced degrees the industry needs to pay more, and that's beyond whatever adjustment the provide for holding an advanced degree.
When you overpay teachers, people who hate teaching, and hate being teachers, will become teachers for the money. Is a good idea to select the people who hate teaching to become teachers?
Absolutely dumb take. There are plenty of very bright and talented people that would have made excellent teachers but chose different career paths because - surprise surprise - the pay is better.
Re: Do teachers need advanced degrees?
#17Teaching salaries start at $48,112 on average. If schools want advanced degrees the industry needs to pay more, and that's beyond whatever adjustment the provide for holding an advanced degree.
When you overpay teachers, people who hate teaching, and hate being teachers, will become teachers for the money. Is a good idea to select the people who hate teaching to become teachers?
When you underpay teachers, people who hate teaching, and hate being teachers, will become teachers because all the people that had better options did something else.
Re: Do teachers need advanced degrees?
#18Teaching salaries start at $48,112 on average. If schools want advanced degrees the industry needs to pay more, and that's beyond whatever adjustment the provide for holding an advanced degree.
When you overpay teachers, people who hate teaching, and hate being teachers, will become teachers for the money. Is a good idea to select the people who hate teaching to become teachers?
This is true of every single job.
Teachers are high in big five trait agreeableness which means they typically don't negotiate on their own behalf
Re: Do teachers need advanced degrees?
#19It's funny that this is a question when every college STEM class is taught by people who have degrees that have absolutely nothing to do with being able to teach effectively.
Re: Do teachers need advanced degrees?
#20Shouldn't need any degrees tbh, only the ability to do their job
It depends on the grade though: no degree would probably be fine for a kindergarten teacher, but I'd be a little concerned if a high school math/science teacher had zero post-secondary experience, especially if this were at a school where most students are planning on attending university.