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EU to crack down on TikTok, Instagram's 'addictive design' targeting kids

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Re: EU to crack down on TikTok, Instagram's 'addictive design' targeting kids

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I think especially restricting endless scrolling is a good thing overall to reduce the addictiveness of social media and its harmful effects. HN having pages instead of a feed or endless list is one of the things I really like about it.

> I think especially restricting endless scrolling

The actual point is that they are designed to be addictive. "endless scrolling" is just an implementation detail. If you "ban endless scrolling", they'll still be using every other trick to make it addictive.

Re: EU to crack down on TikTok, Instagram's 'addictive design' targeting kids

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Yeah yeah, virtue signaling, and most of EU online services are now gated by the use of one of the whatng cartel web engines (IRL, google blink), namely EU web sites are broken favoring web apps. They have to restore interop with noscript/basic html web engines (past/present/and future). Then, they have to be carefull with their file formats, for instance you never give "carte blanche" to such a disgusting format lik…

Is ending endless scrolling really virtue signaling? Don't you think it will have a measurable effect?

Re: EU to crack down on TikTok, Instagram's 'addictive design' targeting kids

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Why should only kids be protected from addiction? I have a hard time understanding this. We have plenty of adults with terrible social media addiction that is destroying their lives, and nothing being done about it.

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Re: EU to crack down on TikTok, Instagram's 'addictive design' targeting kids

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At what point should the responsibility fall on the parent to protect their children from harm?

Don’t get me wrong, if I had my way TikTok wouldn’t exist for anyone, adults included. It’s just so strange to me that so many parents hand their 7 year olds unrestricted access to TikTok and expect someone else to keep their kid safe.

Re: EU to crack down on TikTok, Instagram's 'addictive design' targeting kids

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Why should only kids be protected from addiction? I have a hard time understanding this. We have plenty of adults with terrible social media addiction that is destroying their lives, and nothing being done about it.

Makes it an easier sell politically. If you position it as dangerous to kids in particular, your opposition then looks like they're encouraging child harm.

Re: EU to crack down on TikTok, Instagram's 'addictive design' targeting kids

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah yeah, whataboutism. I'm very happy they're taking a stance. I've seen too many messed up kids and there's no doubt the addictive design plays a big role in the problem.

I must notice that every time, but really every time, EU moves a pinky finger against tech industry, a sizeable chunk of comments here will be like the one above. I wonder, is it about a general sentiment against EU? Or a general sentiment against restricting technology? Or a general sentiment against humans? Or what?

Boiling kid's (and adult's) brains probably makes them a decent chunk of money, either directly via salary or indirectly via stocks. Ensuring kids remain healthy makes no money. An unfortunately large slice of the tech sector doesn't give the tiniest shit about the health of our broader society or any group in it if it means their lines stop going up, or even go up slightly less fast.

Re: EU to crack down on TikTok, Instagram's 'addictive design' targeting kids

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At what point should the responsibility fall on the parent to protect their children from harm? Don’t get me wrong, if I had my way TikTok wouldn’t exist for anyone, adults included. It’s just so strange to me that so many parents hand their 7 year olds unrestricted access to TikTok and expect someone else to keep their kid safe.

> the responsibility of a parent to protect their children from harm

I agree with you, but only in theory. Because that's where we are now and it does not seem to work that well.

Maybe through more education? But then again I think reducing addictive tactics like endless scrolling could be part of a 2 prong attack.

With alcohol we have education on what happens, but we also have laws that regulate it.

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