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Silverback Imfura took a chance, and ended up alone

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Re: Silverback Imfura took a chance, and ended up alone

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Post by pryelluw »

arjie wrote: post #5

Huh, I went looking into this after reading this story and gorilla culture is interesting. Apparently, gorillas don't have a teaching culture (in comparison to us, I suppose) so during their long growth into adults they have to pick up a lot of cues by observation. This group, in particular, is a famous group called Pablo's group because when it was initially followed the leader was a Pablo, who was soon deposed by a…

Was not expecting the opportunity to imagine what a gorilla school would look like when I clicked on this thread. Thank you.

Re: Silverback Imfura took a chance, and ended up alone

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Post by Mistletoe »

sandworm101 wrote: post #8
arjie wrote: post #5

Huh, I went looking into this after reading this story and gorilla culture is interesting. Apparently, gorillas don't have a teaching culture (in comparison to us, I suppose) so during their long growth into adults they have to pick up a lot of cues by observation. This group, in particular, is a famous group called Pablo's group because when it was initially followed the leader was a Pablo, who was soon deposed by a…

And did they mention what happens to the 80+% of males that dont make it to silverback status? Few like to talk about the darker sides of gorilla life. As for teaching cultures, it isnt about IQ. Cats and dogs teach thier young, both wild and domesticated species.

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Re: Silverback Imfura took a chance, and ended up alone

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Post by jpster »

> Imfura had his little group moving constantly, an understandable method to avoid other groups and the possible transfer of his females.

> [emphasis added] But this apparently weakened their trust,

> which is essential for social cohesion.

How do the researchers know their trust was weakened by constant moving?

Re: Silverback Imfura took a chance, and ended up alone

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Post by cycomanic »

jpster wrote: post #14

> Imfura had his little group moving constantly, an understandable method to avoid other groups and the possible transfer of his females. > [emphasis added] But this apparently weakened their trust , > which is essential for social cohesion. How do the researchers know their trust was weakened by constant moving?

You emphasised the key word yourself, "apparently". And the proof is in the pudding, they left. Now the researchers didn't ask the females obviously, but they would have a lot of experience with the behaviour of the gorillas and know that the females don't like instability and unsureness of the leadership (hinted in the article), so the obvious conclusion is that the instability of moving around caused the females to loose trust.

Note I didn't ask the researchers either and am only deducing this from the text.

Re: Silverback Imfura took a chance, and ended up alone

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Post by gloflo »

Mistletoe wrote: post #13
sandworm101 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And did they mention what happens to the 80+% of males that dont make it to silverback status? Few like to talk about the darker sides of gorilla life. As for teaching cultures, it isnt about IQ. Cats and dogs teach thier young, both wild and domesticated species.

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You did not check, you let a text generator generate plausible sounding text.

Re: Silverback Imfura took a chance, and ended up alone

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Post by sandworm101 »

Mistletoe wrote: post #13
sandworm101 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And did they mention what happens to the 80+% of males that dont make it to silverback status? Few like to talk about the darker sides of gorilla life. As for teaching cultures, it isnt about IQ. Cats and dogs teach thier young, both wild and domesticated species.

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Dude. That is an AI, disney-acceptable version of non-reality.

Re: Silverback Imfura took a chance, and ended up alone

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Post by internet_points »

sandworm101 wrote: post #8
arjie wrote: post #5

Huh, I went looking into this after reading this story and gorilla culture is interesting. Apparently, gorillas don't have a teaching culture (in comparison to us, I suppose) so during their long growth into adults they have to pick up a lot of cues by observation. This group, in particular, is a famous group called Pablo's group because when it was initially followed the leader was a Pablo, who was soon deposed by a…

And did they mention what happens to the 80+% of males that dont make it to silverback status? Few like to talk about the darker sides of gorilla life. As for teaching cultures, it isnt about IQ. Cats and dogs teach thier young, both wild and domesticated species.

and raptors teach their young to catch prey
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