It's a shame we let ourselves get to this point where creativity is limited by the walled gardens we've almost fully accepted as "worth it".
Apple is enforcing an old App Store rule against a new kind of software
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Re: Apple is enforcing an old App Store rule against a new kind of software
#12At some point in life, you realize that some discussions, some arguments, are entirely wastes of energy and entire premises can be thrown away with simpler discussions and arguments. To this one, I say, who cares? Don’t publish on platforms where you can’t control your own intellectual property. Why use the App Store at all? It only serves to benefit Apple, and the vast majority of developers are simply making $100/y…
Aren't ipads the new clipboards?
Re: Apple is enforcing an old App Store rule against a new kind of software
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
The outrage isn't about the rule. It's about the sudden decision to choose bureaucracy over common sense.
Sudden decision? This looks completely in-line with what Apple has been doing since the launch of the iPhone. I find the article most charitable to the idea that AI generated software is a different category than human generated software. It's merely a dev tool.
Not AI generated software -- DYNAMICALLY generated software, like at run time and ongoing. Even in-app directed by the user. This is not a thing that existed before, a degree of customizability well beyond letting the user pick a color scheme or from one of a few layouts or default start screens.
I don't know how good of an idea it would be, product-wise, to give programming level flexibility. I am reminded of greasemonkey scripts, but written in english maybe. Maybe it could be awesome. But Apple is saying "nope. Not interested in exploring this with you. BYE"
Re: Apple is enforcing an old App Store rule against a new kind of software
#14At some point in life, you realize that some discussions, some arguments, are entirely wastes of energy and entire premises can be thrown away with simpler discussions and arguments. To this one, I say, who cares? Don’t publish on platforms where you can’t control your own intellectual property. Why use the App Store at all? It only serves to benefit Apple, and the vast majority of developers are simply making $100/y…
Aren't ipads the new clipboards?
I've never seen someone fling their clipboard against the wall so hard it shatters. Probably clipboard developers are just a better breed.
Re: Apple is enforcing an old App Store rule against a new kind of software
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sudden decision? This looks completely in-line with what Apple has been doing since the launch of the iPhone. I find the article most charitable to the idea that AI generated software is a different category than human generated software. It's merely a dev tool.
Not AI generated software -- DYNAMICALLY generated software, like at run time and ongoing. Even in-app directed by the user. This is not a thing that existed before, a degree of customizability well beyond letting the user pick a color scheme or from one of a few layouts or default start screens. I don't know how good of an idea it would be, product-wise, to give programming level flexibility. I am reminded of grease…
Good.
Re: Apple is enforcing an old App Store rule against a new kind of software
#16At some point in life, you realize that some discussions, some arguments, are entirely wastes of energy and entire premises can be thrown away with simpler discussions and arguments. To this one, I say, who cares? Don’t publish on platforms where you can’t control your own intellectual property. Why use the App Store at all? It only serves to benefit Apple, and the vast majority of developers are simply making $100/y…
> Whatever you’re shipping to a phone isn’t for professionals anyway.
That's a bold statement.
I hate developing for iPhone, but I don't have a choice because 85% of the users of our B2B app are on iOS.
Re: Apple is enforcing an old App Store rule against a new kind of software
#17Rules always existed and were clear. Outrage that they are being enforced seems strange.
The argument in the post isn't that the enforcement is unfair, more that the rule might not make sense much longer now that software can write itself. Rule was written for a world where the artifact reviewed and the artifact running were the same thing. That assumption is breaking, and not just for vibe-coding apps.
Apple doesn't want software that can write itself available on its app store. I don't want software that can write itself running on my device. So for once Apple's priorities and the consumer's align.
Re: Apple is enforcing an old App Store rule against a new kind of software
#18Re: Apple is enforcing an old App Store rule against a new kind of software
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sudden decision? This looks completely in-line with what Apple has been doing since the launch of the iPhone. I find the article most charitable to the idea that AI generated software is a different category than human generated software. It's merely a dev tool.
Not AI generated software -- DYNAMICALLY generated software, like at run time and ongoing. Even in-app directed by the user. This is not a thing that existed before, a degree of customizability well beyond letting the user pick a color scheme or from one of a few layouts or default start screens. I don't know how good of an idea it would be, product-wise, to give programming level flexibility. I am reminded of grease…
Maybe it could, but I don't want it on my phone, and I like the fact that I have at least some confidence that an app I install isn't that.
Re: Apple is enforcing an old App Store rule against a new kind of software
#20At some point in life, you realize that some discussions, some arguments, are entirely wastes of energy and entire premises can be thrown away with simpler discussions and arguments. To this one, I say, who cares? Don’t publish on platforms where you can’t control your own intellectual property. Why use the App Store at all? It only serves to benefit Apple, and the vast majority of developers are simply making $100/y…
> Whatever you’re shipping to a phone isn’t for professionals anyway. That's a bold statement. I hate developing for iPhone, but I don't have a choice because 85% of the users of our B2B app are on iOS.
> I hate developing for iPhone, but I don't have a choice because 85% of the users of our B2B app are on iOS.
I mean, you could outsource the mobile app building.
My company does basically our entire B2B stack and infrastructure in-house except for the mobile apps.