What Mark Cuban Really Thinks About Facebook • Hacker News Board

Re: What Mark Cuban Really Thinks About Facebook

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Post by hayksaakian » Mon, Nov 19, 2012, 8:59 AM UTC

Swizec wrote: post #7

hayksaakian wrote: post #5

Facebook is fully entitled to enforce edgerank. People consume content differently on FB than say twitter. Since twitter is more of a firehouse, its OK to simply sort by date since newness has much more value in that ecosystem. This is socially acknowledged given that tweets are firstly public. In contrast Facebook presents itself as a local social network. As such, your relationships on FB carry more weight. Social…

The situation changes when a lot of your friends are from the startup ecosystem. Suddenly that new product launch is as important as a new baby. And that new feature is something you're expected to like etc. etc. How does that fit? They usually still advertise these things through a "corporate" page ...

I'd say at that point you're an outlier. Of the FB population who is really involved in the 'scene'.

Re: What Mark Cuban Really Thinks About Facebook

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Post by joelrunyon » Mon, Nov 19, 2012, 11:01 AM UTC

I don't see why facebook absolutely refuses to make it simple to unfriend or unlike something or something.

Let me rephrase that, I know why they make it difficult (more connection = more data), but it really detracts from the experience. I don't want to spend 3 hours clicking on individuals profiles and clicking 4 different times to do one action (the "friends link", individual profile page, the "unlike" and the confirm button).

I know, speaking for myself, I use facebook drastically different than I did a few years ago, and I would love to clean up some of the friend list I've accumulated over the years.

Re: What Mark Cuban Really Thinks About Facebook

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Post by brudgers » Mon, Nov 19, 2012, 1:29 PM UTC

fnayr wrote: post #10

guelo wrote: post #6

Its been several years since FB changed the default sort order from 'Recent' to 'Top'. They made the change gently, first letting angry users change the default back to 'Recent'. In typical FB fashion the setting would randomly switch back to 'Top' if you weren't vigilant, and then after a while after angry users got tired of fighting it and others forgot how it used to be they took the setting away. My point being t…

My FB still lets me change the sort order but randomly changes it back to top.

As does mine. When it changes to "Top" it's glaringly obvious, too.

Perhaps the option persists because I use Facebook in a limited way, always through a dedicated device - primarily, through its own virtual machine, occasionally on an old smartphone with no SIM over WiFi, never via my primary browser or active cellphone.

In my case, Facebook's data mining only sees a reflection of my Facebook related activities. It is tempting to share more, but I have better places to subject people to what's on my mind.

Re: What Mark Cuban Really Thinks About Facebook

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Post by cbs » Mon, Nov 19, 2012, 3:14 PM UTC

jjb123 wrote: post #4

>Doesn’t FB realize that is far easier for a user to opt-out of a feed by unliking a brand/person/page that has done a poor job of communication than it is to mess with all the account settings or for them to try to tweak their algorithm all the time to try to guess what people want? Cuban's doubts of the efficacy of edgerank (or perhaps his doubts stemming from not knowing the purpose of edgerank) comes from him not…

>him not really knowing facebook from the perspective of a consumer/user and only knowing it primarily as a broadcast tool

That's funny, because as a "regular user" he perfectly voiced my opinion of (what I now know to be called) edgerank. I see and feel the facebook filterbubble quite frequently, its much easier to notice and more annoying than google's. I just don't voice my distaste for it very much because people just write off my opinion as being a "hater".