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Human brain changes after first psilocybin use

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Re: Human brain changes after first psilocybin use

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Post by nurettin »

genewitch wrote: post #8
unanonymousanon wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you consider a micro dose? The article states: “All effects are exclusive to 25 mg psilocybin; no effects occur with a 1 mg psilocybin placebo”

they sell psilocybin gummies, ranging from weak to 4.5g per. The ones i've tried were "3 is a normal dose, 6 is space jam, 1 is a nice afternoon off." I took one, and it did make everything a little brighter, birds sweeter sounding, and everything seemed a little bit better for a while. But i don't trust the manufacturers, so i only tried 1 pack over a couple of weeks. anyhow 1-25mg is a pretty small does if 5g is co…

> took one, and it did make everything a little brighter, birds sweeter sounding, and everything seemed a little bit better for a while.

Used to work at a dreary sweatshop where breaks amounted to smoking outside while staring at eachother, they used biometrics and software to track your KPIs , you'd get diarrhea from workplace food and departments had various beefs with each other.

Switched jobs to an international car manufacturer where people would greet eachother, drop their guards and have fun working together.

I got this exact feeling! The sky was more blue, flowers were more colorful, birds more chirpy, halls brighter and people smiled. Lasted for five months.

Re: Human brain changes after first psilocybin use

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Post by genewitch »

nurettin wrote: post #11
genewitch wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they sell psilocybin gummies, ranging from weak to 4.5g per. The ones i've tried were "3 is a normal dose, 6 is space jam, 1 is a nice afternoon off." I took one, and it did make everything a little brighter, birds sweeter sounding, and everything seemed a little bit better for a while. But i don't trust the manufacturers, so i only tried 1 pack over a couple of weeks. anyhow 1-25mg is a pretty small does if 5g is co…

> took one, and it did make everything a little brighter, birds sweeter sounding, and everything seemed a little bit better for a while. Used to work at a dreary sweatshop where breaks amounted to smoking outside while staring at eachother, they used biometrics and software to track your KPIs , you'd get diarrhea from workplace food and departments had various beefs with each other. Switched jobs to an international…

I've heard similar from people who didn't know they had vision issues, saw an eye specialist, received glasses, and went outside and actually saw for the first time in their lives how pretty everything outside is (offer not valid in some areas, other restrictions may apply). Most of them break down in tears from the sheer emotion, that i've known and seen videos of.

The mushroom thing isn't so earth-moving. It's like you have a deck of trading cards, and you take a gummy, and now all your cards look almost like foil cards. Shimmery, just on the peripheral, and since I personally was trying to experience good things, i was able to pay more attention to the birds and stuff.

It's almost like a placebo that gives you permission to not worry and to just experience for a short while.

While your sweatshop sucked, without that experience you maybe wouldn't appreciate the car manufacturer job experience as much, and it mightn't not have made you think to post at all.

I dunno, i'm getting real soft in my mid-life.

Re: Human brain changes after first psilocybin use

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Post by nurettin »

genewitch wrote: post #12
nurettin wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> took one, and it did make everything a little brighter, birds sweeter sounding, and everything seemed a little bit better for a while. Used to work at a dreary sweatshop where breaks amounted to smoking outside while staring at eachother, they used biometrics and software to track your KPIs , you'd get diarrhea from workplace food and departments had various beefs with each other. Switched jobs to an international…

I've heard similar from people who didn't know they had vision issues, saw an eye specialist, received glasses, and went outside and actually saw for the first time in their lives how pretty everything outside is (offer not valid in some areas, other restrictions may apply). Most of them break down in tears from the sheer emotion, that i've known and seen videos of. The mushroom thing isn't so earth-moving. It's like…

Yeah no it's fine, the only thing I've learned is that some things are better left unexperienced.

Re: Human brain changes after first psilocybin use

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Post by g-technology »

harimau777 wrote: post #5
takyamoto wrote: post #2

Microdosing can literally be a lifesaver if you have chronic depression or PTSD. It's been widely documented and there's tons of companies working on this specifically as a new form of treatement.

Have they figured out a way around the interactions with SSRIs yet?

I think the issue there is that the ssri dull some of the receptors that psilocybin act upon.

If you are on them, you can still get positive results, but your baseline for microdose might be higher. Be careful if try… go slow, follow proper harm reduction measures.

Re: Human brain changes after first psilocybin use

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Post by helterskelter »

harimau777 wrote: post #7
unanonymousanon wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you consider a micro dose? The article states: “All effects are exclusive to 25 mg psilocybin; no effects occur with a 1 mg psilocybin placebo”

5 grams is considered a heroic dose (e.g. the dose where you are likely to experience things like ego death). Around 2 grams is considered a "museum dose" or "social dose" (e.g. it's enough to change your perceptions but not so much that you are unable to operate). So 25 mg is a fairly low dose while 1 mg is very low.

It depends on the variety of mushroom. Some varieties can be 3-4 times stronger than what you'll typically run into. So I've heard anyway.

Re: Human brain changes after first psilocybin use

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Post by grvdrm »

g-technology wrote: post #14
harimau777 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have they figured out a way around the interactions with SSRIs yet?

I think the issue there is that the ssri dull some of the receptors that psilocybin act upon. If you are on them, you can still get positive results, but your baseline for microdose might be higher. Be careful if try… go slow, follow proper harm reduction measures.

Not a doctor but I might go further and say possibly avoid altogether until you come off SSRI.

I have a recent experience with MDMA, a substance that also interacts with those receptors. A friend and I both tried MDMA, not first realizing that one of us felt almost no effect because of an ongoing Lexapro prescription. We were well supervised in this endeavor, but I can imagine a more unrestricted experience in which you take way more than a recreational dose by accident.

By the way, you might need those SSRIs!

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