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Instagram Encrypted Messaging Ends on Friday, May 8

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Re: Instagram Encrypted Messaging Ends on Friday, May 8

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Everything Meta has built is antithetical to privacy. I’m surprised this feature existed at all.

I’m curious if this was built off the work Moxie did with them back in the day, but as I recall Facebook Messenger had E2EE built off Signal’s technology a decade or so back, and the zeitgeist back then was at least a little bit less user hostile.

Re: Instagram Encrypted Messaging Ends on Friday, May 8

#14
post #12

This might not be obvious to some, like it wasn't to me, but Instagram chat history is used for profiling. I noticed when I chatted with someone about something on Instagram, and instantly reels with the subject of our discussion started appearing in my feed.

Failing to connect those dots is (unfortunately) what keeps many, many people from moving their otherwise private conversations to a more private channel. I think you're right that it bears mentioning.

Re: Instagram Encrypted Messaging Ends on Friday, May 8

#15

What’s the endgame here? - just better ad targeting? (lol if so) - policing accounts for various possible infractions? - training data for ML models?

All of the above and anything else you can think of that can be tied back to 1.) profit; or 2.) the accumulation of clout with authorities (in that order).

Re: Instagram Encrypted Messaging Ends on Friday, May 8

#16
It feels absurd to have seen E2EE fought for and considered table stakes by many users, especially the technically-oriented, now rolled back a short time later by these companies who never really cared about privacy to begin with and clearly don't expect any backlash.

It also feels like the wide-scale desperate adoption of AI has weakened claims about the essential nature of privacy, now that everyone has demonstrated that they are happy to feed their innermost thoughts, secrets, personal conflicts, code, medical records, legal documents, etc. into cloud AI platforms.

Re: Instagram Encrypted Messaging Ends on Friday, May 8

#17
post #8

"In March, a spokesperson for Meta told The Guardian that the decision to abandon encryption was due to low uptake. "Very few people were opting in to end-to-end encrypted messaging in DMs, so we're removing this option from Instagram in the coming months," the spokesperson said." I wonder what it's like being a spokesperson for a company (or administration) where everyone including yourself knows your statements are…

I've noticed it is a quite common attitude in society, not paid enough to care so they don't.

What do you mean? It's a depressing thought people only care about things for financial incentive.

Re: Instagram Encrypted Messaging Ends on Friday, May 8

#18
post #12

This might not be obvious to some, like it wasn't to me, but Instagram chat history is used for profiling. I noticed when I chatted with someone about something on Instagram, and instantly reels with the subject of our discussion started appearing in my feed.

Failing to connect those dots is (unfortunately) what keeps many, many people from moving their otherwise private conversations to a more private channel. I think you're right that it bears mentioning.

What's a sufficiently private/secure messaging platform? Signal comes to mind, but I'm open to alternatives.

Re: Instagram Encrypted Messaging Ends on Friday, May 8

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Failing to connect those dots is (unfortunately) what keeps many, many people from moving their otherwise private conversations to a more private channel. I think you're right that it bears mentioning.

What's a sufficiently private/secure messaging platform? Signal comes to mind, but I'm open to alternatives.

GPG-encrypted email.
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