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The Death of Scrum – Built for a slower world, performed by those who left

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Re: The Death of Scrum – Built for a slower world, performed by those who left

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post #4

“We hold a meeting to talk about the meetings, and another to plan the meetings about the meetings.“ I dropped scrum last year.

People must realize that it's people who book meetings, not processes.

And some of them book meetings to try to justify their presence.

Blaming scrum for having meetings on the calendar is a scapegoat. You will have those meetings show up regardless of what processes you chose to replace scrum.

Re: The Death of Scrum – Built for a slower world, performed by those who left

#12
post #5

“Interactive obituary - 22 min” Ugh is there a regular text version I can read at my own pace? Also why light text on black background? Hurts my eyes and is very difficult to read. Guess I’ll wait for someone with more patience and better eyesight to maybe provide a summary or something :)

Yeah, this seems like it could have been a few paragraphs. It goes on and on. I’ll give my hot take without reading. I’ve been in a lot of kinds of scrum and it seems like a YMMV thing. The most effective scrums are the ones which start from first principle and create a process for the teams current needs. Many of the most effective ones worked out of a spreadsheet or Google doc rather than an issue tracker. Sometime…

Nearly 100% of the scrum processes I was involved with at Fortune 500 companies were top-down mandates that could not be deviated from.

Re: The Death of Scrum – Built for a slower world, performed by those who left

#13

So an author whose company sells AI tools to organizations has published an AI-written sensationalist website detailing how horrible the "old way" of doing things is, in the hope that more people will pay them for their "new way" products. Wow, color me shocked.

I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.

I ain't reading all this AI crap. Just do a "buy me" website.

Re: The Death of Scrum – Built for a slower world, performed by those who left

#16

“Interactive obituary - 22 min” Ugh is there a regular text version I can read at my own pace? Also why light text on black background? Hurts my eyes and is very difficult to read. Guess I’ll wait for someone with more patience and better eyesight to maybe provide a summary or something :)

> Also why light text on black background?

im really curious how you think this is worse than the other way around

Re: The Death of Scrum – Built for a slower world, performed by those who left

#17
post #4

“We hold a meeting to talk about the meetings, and another to plan the meetings about the meetings.“ I dropped scrum last year.

People must realize that it's people who book meetings, not processes. And some of them book meetings to try to justify their presence. Blaming scrum for having meetings on the calendar is a scapegoat. You will have those meetings show up regardless of what processes you chose to replace scrum.

Lies, damned lies.

SCRUM by definition is meetings.

in fact, I like this topic, because usually people use the motte and bailey of Agile. (as in, Agile is a manifesto to some, or a process to someone else) but scrum is super well defined, and it is defined by: structured meetings.

Re: The Death of Scrum – Built for a slower world, performed by those who left

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The interactivity seems to be a substitute for coherent global organization (and a rationalization by the human author for not reviewing the LLM's strange stylistic / wording choices). It's incredibly distracting, and fatally weakens the argument! The entire time I was thinking "ok, then we just do the same old scrum on specs instead of code, seems like the human management advantages are still as relevant as ever." Perhaps if this were written as an essay the author could have collected their own thoughts a little better and addressed this point. They only did, offhandedly at the end.

UGH I tried to copy-paste that part ("Start writing specs in a way..."), but I couldn't because of this obnoxious fucking interactivity! Why write an essay if people can't share the parts they find interesting???? Again this stuff is designed to impede critical long-distance thought by throwing up a bunch of short-range distractions. It even works on the humans and LLMs writing it. This essay really is incoherent.

Also as someone who used to work manual QA for fairly sensitive finance/pharmaceutical software, this part is darkly funny (I actually could put it on my clipboard, god I hate JS):

  Then · circa 2001
  6 weeks
  Submit code. Wait for QA. Get a bug list. Negotiate. Fix. Wait again.

  Now · 2026
  6 seconds
  Type, save, hot-reload, AI suggests a fix, tests run in parallel. The build itself talks back to you.
"AI suggests a fix" but who finds the bug? AI, I suppose. Good luck with that. Meta is desperately training AI to use a mouse correctly by snooping on its tens of thousands of its own workers. A very important part of my job was clicking on stuff. Maybe in a few years of mass surveillance AI will figure it out. Until then, it seems like Mantyx needed to hire a human who knows how to use a computer and review this website. It's incredibly hard to use because it's obviously vibe-coded. HIRE HUMANS TO AT LEAST LOOK AT YOUR SOFTWARE. Even if it's just a website.

Speaking of, it's so depressing to see this written by an actual company trying to sell stuff:

  Treat agents as teammates
  Specify, dispatch, and verify. Stop treating AI as autocomplete; start treating it as a junior engineer who works at machine speed.
Junior engineers: do not work at Mantyx! They have announced their intentions to mistreat you. It's LLM-boosted corporate hideousness.

Re: The Death of Scrum – Built for a slower world, performed by those who left

#20
post #16

“Interactive obituary - 22 min” Ugh is there a regular text version I can read at my own pace? Also why light text on black background? Hurts my eyes and is very difficult to read. Guess I’ll wait for someone with more patience and better eyesight to maybe provide a summary or something :)

> Also why light text on black background? im really curious how you think this is worse than the other way around

I don’t like “dark mode”. It’s blurry, makes me have to squint and hurts my eyes.
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