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Past Ferrari Models, 1947–2023

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Re: Past Ferrari Models, 1947–2023

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I'd be curious why user NaOH chose to submit this. I'll offer a justification: it is notable that a car company lists all (I assume?) its past products, giving equal visual weight to the F50 (lauded today) and Mondial 8 (not lauded). By contrast, it's hard to find Ford talking about the Pinto: https://www.google.com/search?q=pinto+site%3Aford.com

Ferrari has recently announced the interior design for a new model, designed by Jony Ive.

Re: Past Ferrari Models, 1947–2023

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I wish Ferrari would bring their manuals back. Their gated manual was such a joy to use. There is probably enough demand (look at the used prices, where manuals sell 40% more), but the new management seems keen to just try to squeeze as much profit as they can from their current tech stack. They have ceased to become a great fun car, to more just something to show off/luxury empty toy.

I don't think that's the reason. Modern supercars have so much power that the average person that can afford them is going to wreck the drivetrain in a very short while if they have to manage all that power themselves. Automatic gearboxes are far more forgiving. You see the same with Porsches that have manual gearboxes, if you read out the ECU you'll see them overrev many times more than with the autos, if at all (in fact I don't recall seeing an auto that had overrevved).

Re: Past Ferrari Models, 1947–2023

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I wish Ferrari would bring their manuals back. Their gated manual was such a joy to use. There is probably enough demand (look at the used prices, where manuals sell 40% more), but the new management seems keen to just try to squeeze as much profit as they can from their current tech stack. They have ceased to become a great fun car, to more just something to show off/luxury empty toy.

I don't think that's the reason. Modern supercars have so much power that the average person that can afford them is going to wreck the drivetrain in a very short while if they have to manage all that power themselves. Automatic gearboxes are far more forgiving. You see the same with Porsches that have manual gearboxes, if you read out the ECU you'll see them overrev many times more than with the autos, if at all (in…

You are not getting it. There are plenty of cars that have 600+ hp and are manual.

The Ferrari Roma, or Amalfi, are within that 600hp - 800hp range.

Simply, the new leadership thinks there is not enough market for it, and that's why. Mainly, because in the 2010-2015 era, when the pdk/dual clutch became popular, folks stopped buying manuals. But that attitude has changed, and folks are wanting for more manual experiences.

There is your list. https://carbuzz.com/10-most-powerful-cars-ever-with-a-manual...

You have cars from 600hp up to 800+ hp and safely can handle a manual transmission.

It is not a technical issue, just a leadership mentality issue.

Re: Past Ferrari Models, 1947–2023

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that's the reason. Modern supercars have so much power that the average person that can afford them is going to wreck the drivetrain in a very short while if they have to manage all that power themselves. Automatic gearboxes are far more forgiving. You see the same with Porsches that have manual gearboxes, if you read out the ECU you'll see them overrev many times more than with the autos, if at all (in…

You are not getting it. There are plenty of cars that have 600+ hp and are manual. The Ferrari Roma, or Amalfi, are within that 600hp - 800hp range. Simply, the new leadership thinks there is not enough market for it, and that's why. Mainly, because in the 2010-2015 era, when the pdk/dual clutch became popular, folks stopped buying manuals. But that attitude has changed, and folks are wanting for more manual experien…

My point is that you can buy it but you probably can't drive it. Of course you think you can.
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