I wasn't aware of the Gloat project before this. It's a compiler that turns Clojure into native binaries by first transpiling to Glojure (which I'd also never heard of before this), which in turn targets Go. This is rather than using a GraalVM native image, which as I understand it is at this point the better-explored mechanism of doing that for JVM-based stuff (but has its own trade-offs). Very cool!
I can see why people try this way: graalvm is limited outside the entreprise version, and it’s quite slow to compile with.
I think the aot compilation story on the JVM lacks fast tooling with good UX compared to go.
If you use Clojure for your business, please consider funding this effort and also directly developers who work on software that you use. It makes for a sustainable ecosystem.
The Clojure community is very mature and incredibly nice, so things are not bad as they are, but they could definitely be better.
I try to set aside a portion of my business revenue (I call it a "sustainability fee" in my P&L) and spread it among the authors of libraries that I use. It's not much for each author, but if everybody did this, many authors could work on open source libraries full time.
If you use Clojure for your business, please consider funding this effort and also directly developers who work on software that you use. It makes for a sustainable ecosystem. The Clojure community is very mature and incredibly nice, so things are not bad as they are, but they could definitely be better. I try to set aside a portion of my business revenue (I call it a "sustainability fee" in my P&L) and spread it amo…
what needs funding is clojure core, Clojurists Together is a nice effort to try to fill a gap but what my business needs, and other business owners tell me they need, is for the core language (clojure and clojurescript) to not feel like it is falling apart. I want to invest my money in targeted, specific high value problems and get leverage on my money by sharing the cost with other business owners who need the same issues fixed. Until such a vector exists, the next best thing (for my business) is to fund a few key maintainers directly via github sponsorship. But because it is indirect and not outcomes-driven, the money amounts will be smaller. My business can afford to invest more than the $2400 per year that we have been donating since the release of Electric. My business has employed 4 devs for 5+ years, I can find more budget for investments in Clojure. Businesses pay for things (unlike individuals). We want to pay. We want our key dependencies to thrive. But there is no vector to invest in the specific core issues that would benefit my business to improve. And this makes me sad because over the last few years I find myself leaning more and more away from Clojure, even repelled (as if by some invisible force), instead of leaning in.
If you use Clojure for your business, please consider funding this effort and also directly developers who work on software that you use. It makes for a sustainable ecosystem. The Clojure community is very mature and incredibly nice, so things are not bad as they are, but they could definitely be better. I try to set aside a portion of my business revenue (I call it a "sustainability fee" in my P&L) and spread it amo…
what needs funding is clojure core, Clojurists Together is a nice effort to try to fill a gap but what my business needs, and other business owners tell me they need, is for the core language (clojure and clojurescript) to not feel like it is falling apart. I want to invest my money in targeted, specific high value problems and get leverage on my money by sharing the cost with other business owners who need the same…
If you use Clojure for your business, please consider funding this effort and also directly developers who work on software that you use. It makes for a sustainable ecosystem. The Clojure community is very mature and incredibly nice, so things are not bad as they are, but they could definitely be better. I try to set aside a portion of my business revenue (I call it a "sustainability fee" in my P&L) and spread it amo…
what needs funding is clojure core, Clojurists Together is a nice effort to try to fill a gap but what my business needs, and other business owners tell me they need, is for the core language (clojure and clojurescript) to not feel like it is falling apart. I want to invest my money in targeted, specific high value problems and get leverage on my money by sharing the cost with other business owners who need the same…
Cognitect is a holding of NuBank (since 2020 I believe).
Doesn't that mean the core developers are now funded by NuBank?
Isn't it in their interest that 'the core language (Clojure and Clojurescript) to not feel like it is falling apart'?
And what do you mean with falling apart?
I'm new to Clojure, so the above is a genuine question.
If you use Clojure for your business, please consider funding this effort and also directly developers who work on software that you use. It makes for a sustainable ecosystem. The Clojure community is very mature and incredibly nice, so things are not bad as they are, but they could definitely be better. I try to set aside a portion of my business revenue (I call it a "sustainability fee" in my P&L) and spread it amo…
what needs funding is clojure core, Clojurists Together is a nice effort to try to fill a gap but what my business needs, and other business owners tell me they need, is for the core language (clojure and clojurescript) to not feel like it is falling apart. I want to invest my money in targeted, specific high value problems and get leverage on my money by sharing the cost with other business owners who need the same…
Given that software is composed of a hierarchy of dependencies, I would like to see a funding approach that works at the dependency tree level to support an entire tree or sub tree.
There is a huge freeloader problem where business don't contribute any support for their core dependencies.
I wonder if there is a role for an organization that could act as the interface for corporate support at the dependency tree level. It could offload maintainers (or fund them) to handle certain compliance requirements and provide an official sanctioned entity for purposes of corporate policies.
There should be a way to garner support broadly for risk management and specifically for security in the corporate context.
If you use Clojure for your business, please consider funding this effort and also directly developers who work on software that you use. It makes for a sustainable ecosystem. The Clojure community is very mature and incredibly nice, so things are not bad as they are, but they could definitely be better. I try to set aside a portion of my business revenue (I call it a "sustainability fee" in my P&L) and spread it amo…
what needs funding is clojure core, Clojurists Together is a nice effort to try to fill a gap but what my business needs, and other business owners tell me they need, is for the core language (clojure and clojurescript) to not feel like it is falling apart. I want to invest my money in targeted, specific high value problems and get leverage on my money by sharing the cost with other business owners who need the same…
Well, you can fund individual developers on GitHub (like David Nolen), which I do. I would also gladly fund the core, although I do not feel it is "falling apart", quite the opposite in fact — I am very happy with what it provides and how it is maintained. My business is based on it.
what needs funding is clojure core, Clojurists Together is a nice effort to try to fill a gap but what my business needs, and other business owners tell me they need, is for the core language (clojure and clojurescript) to not feel like it is falling apart. I want to invest my money in targeted, specific high value problems and get leverage on my money by sharing the cost with other business owners who need the same…
Cognitect is a holding of NuBank (since 2020 I believe). Doesn't that mean the core developers are now funded by NuBank? Isn't it in their interest that 'the core language (Clojure and Clojurescript) to not feel like it is falling apart'? And what do you mean with falling apart? I'm new to Clojure, so the above is a genuine question.