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Our agent found a bug with WireGuard in Google Kubernetes Engine

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Re: Our agent found a bug with WireGuard in Google Kubernetes Engine

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Post by yomismoaqui »

i_think_so wrote: post #4
owenthejumper wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

came to say this. it's the AI writing cadence, I can smell it from 1000ft: - Lots of "The" headings - Always "why it matters" - Machine gun style cadence of short sentences

I hate that AI has stolen my emdashes and I can't use them without looking like slop. But I will die defending markdown as my preferred note taking format. They're not taking that away from me.

How about not caring about what people on the internet say about your writing using emdashes?

They are a false positive signal for identifying AI texts anyway.

Re: Our agent found a bug with WireGuard in Google Kubernetes Engine

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Post by SaucyWrong »

parliament32 wrote: post #5

This piece might be a record for how quick it took me to smell the AI-tone and close the tab.. one paragraph! I'm sure it's an interesting bug but I can't stomach reading any more slop.

Came here to say this. It’s a shame that I’m so exhausted reading slop that I’m probably missing many interesting stories from the industry

Re: Our agent found a bug with WireGuard in Google Kubernetes Engine

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Post by IanCal »

i_think_so wrote: post #4
owenthejumper wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

came to say this. it's the AI writing cadence, I can smell it from 1000ft: - Lots of "The" headings - Always "why it matters" - Machine gun style cadence of short sentences

I hate that AI has stolen my emdashes and I can't use them without looking like slop. But I will die defending markdown as my preferred note taking format. They're not taking that away from me.

I felt like this with the word delve. Seemed like nobody had ever heard the word before, and that the only possible way it’d be written was if an llm did it - but it’s just a nice word.

Re: Our agent found a bug with WireGuard in Google Kubernetes Engine

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Post by DANmode »

i_think_so wrote: post #8
wolttam wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Em dashes aren’t stolen, it’s still clear from the overall voice of the text if it’s AI written or not. At least, in reasonably long sections of text. I find it can be hard to tell one way or the other in shorter texts (like comments)

Just on HN alone I think I've seen roughly 3948538902748750897520938 mentions of emdashes when others were complaining about slop in the past 2 months. It might as well be the unofficial slop logo. Folks are treating it like a dead giveaway. I feel like a school friend of mine has been taken from me.

Indeed: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47921359

and the comments above it

Re: Our agent found a bug with WireGuard in Google Kubernetes Engine

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Post by kandros »

owenthejumper wrote: post #3
soupdiver wrote: post #2

hate how it all has the same tone now

came to say this. it's the AI writing cadence, I can smell it from 1000ft: - Lots of "The" headings - Always "why it matters" - Machine gun style cadence of short sentences

convergence that we see in all kind of medium when some things are considered “working better” (true or not)

AI writing takes these to an extreme but we have see the same happening everywhere even before AI

Re: Our agent found a bug with WireGuard in Google Kubernetes Engine

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Post by sleepybrett »

IanCal wrote: post #13
i_think_so wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate that AI has stolen my emdashes and I can't use them without looking like slop. But I will die defending markdown as my preferred note taking format. They're not taking that away from me.

I felt like this with the word delve. Seemed like nobody had ever heard the word before, and that the only possible way it’d be written was if an llm did it - but it’s just a nice word.

the premiere golang debugger is called delve. Also you must not hang out w/ many ttrpgers.

Re: Our agent found a bug with WireGuard in Google Kubernetes Engine

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Post by Aachen »

A bug in Wireguard? What did Google change, since it affects only them? Any lessons learned about modifying cryptographic software?

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Skipping past the investigation bit (minimising my daily slop intake), it's a wrong MTU value causing failing connections when Wireguard is disabled:

> When we disabled WireGuard, we expected the configuration to change to use the full 1500 bytes. However, some nodes in the cluster hadn't been restarted [and were] using the old 1420-byte MTU.

> [paraphrased] This particularly affected Valkey connections because they were distributed across nodes with mismatched MTU settings. So your API pod might not connect. The fix was rerolling all the nodes to get a consistent MTU configuration

Re: Our agent found a bug with WireGuard in Google Kubernetes Engine

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Post by cootsnuck »

parliament32 wrote: post #5

This piece might be a record for how quick it took me to smell the AI-tone and close the tab.. one paragraph! I'm sure it's an interesting bug but I can't stomach reading any more slop.

I think "AI-tone" is a much better way to characterize this stuff than accusing people of using AI. The problem has always been the same. Putting out slop feels disrespectful to the people you want to read/watch your stuff.

Makes me think of how pre-chatGPT I still could barely handle most recipe blogs because of their well known attempts at "filling space". And yea the problem is significantly magnified now everywhere else.

Anyway, my point is, whether or not someone uses AI is almost secondary in a way (even though it can seem pretty obvious to most of us when it's being used). All that matters is if the writing seems like it cares more about throwing words at people instead of actually conveying its points in a way to elicit understanding.

Re: Our agent found a bug with WireGuard in Google Kubernetes Engine

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Post by SoftTalker »

IanCal wrote: post #13
i_think_so wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate that AI has stolen my emdashes and I can't use them without looking like slop. But I will die defending markdown as my preferred note taking format. They're not taking that away from me.

I felt like this with the word delve. Seemed like nobody had ever heard the word before, and that the only possible way it’d be written was if an llm did it - but it’s just a nice word.

Delve was used a lot in corporate writing. A lot of the so-called "whitepapers" that businesses like to publish to show how smart they are were ingested in training models.
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