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If Apple makes an iPad Neo, it's all over

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Re: If Apple makes an iPad Neo, it's all over

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Post by comrade1234 »

I never understood googles strategy in mobile. At the beginning I assumed that they would make a reference platform showing what's possible - a high-end pixel with all of the latest hardware and software features to promote their OS and software. Driving advancement in hardware by others using android. But instead it seems like they're competing at all levels with their hardware and are trying to win at consumer-level hardware against china instead of with their software and search and now ai - areas with high margins and where they make money.

Since their hardware group is t working at promoting their software group they should probably just spin off and do their own thing.

Re: If Apple makes an iPad Neo, it's all over

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Post by refulgentis »

kgwgk wrote: post #7
hadlock wrote: post #6

I think the industry has already agreed to give this product category to Apple. Everyone needs a phone, but only specific types of users need a tablet. Apple's tablet is Good Enough for everyone, and they last forever. The o.g. iPad Air we bought in Nov 2020 is still chugging along and we use it... basically only to watch movies on airplane rides etc. And I am primarily a linux/android user, but this is the one Apple…

> The o.g. iPad Air we bought in Nov 2020 o.g. ?

Original gangsta, which has come to mean “original” with a tint of “I respect it”

They’re either using loosely, as in “my first iPad Air purchased”, or tightly, as in "the original iPad Air release", which was in 2013 but could be purchased used, presumably.

Re: If Apple makes an iPad Neo, it's all over

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Post by Jtsummers »

CoastalCoder wrote: post #9
kgwgk wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The o.g. iPad Air we bought in Nov 2020 o.g. ?

It's kid slang for "original", apparently.

Yeah but 10 years late to be described as the original. That said, my parents got rid of their actual OG iPad only 2-3 years ago (did not hold a charge for a long time, finally decided it was time to get one that did).

Re: If Apple makes an iPad Neo, it's all over

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Post by leptons »

nate8bit wrote: post #5

For all of the Apple hate recently (with glass + MacOS bugs) - it's still great to be able to invest in high quality hardware. I made the switch to Mac, oh about 12 yrs ago, and sometimes forget how spoilt we are with really tight hardware + software integration.

Apple hardware isn't exceptional, it's maybe slightly above average, sometimes, and still costs more than it should - even the neo with its paltry 8GB of RAM. Apple has had plenty of hardware problems and design foibles. So many.

Their software is equally average in most respects, and has a far smaller market share worldwide across all form factors they support.

iOS is the reason I'll never own another iPad.

I mean, it's fine that you like it, but "spoilt" seems like an exaggeration.

Re: If Apple makes an iPad Neo, it's all over

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Post by nate8bit »

leptons wrote: post #15
nate8bit wrote: post #5

For all of the Apple hate recently (with glass + MacOS bugs) - it's still great to be able to invest in high quality hardware. I made the switch to Mac, oh about 12 yrs ago, and sometimes forget how spoilt we are with really tight hardware + software integration.

Apple hardware isn't exceptional, it's maybe slightly above average, sometimes, and still costs more than it should - even the neo with its paltry 8GB of RAM. Apple has had plenty of hardware problems and design foibles. So many. Their software is equally average in most respects, and has a far smaller market share worldwide across all form factors they support. iOS is the reason I'll never own another iPad. I mean,…

> Apple hardware isn't exceptional, it's maybe slightly above average

Is this a serious statement? If Apple's hardware is maybe slightly above average - what's above it? It's an easy company to hate on - but you don't have any other platform integrated as well as Apple's right now IMO. Unless you maybe count Huawei.

Edit: I think I may be referring more to the holistic picture. But still curious what hardware you think is better.

Re: If Apple makes an iPad Neo, it's all over

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Post by hocuspocus »

comrade1234 wrote: post #11

I never understood googles strategy in mobile. At the beginning I assumed that they would make a reference platform showing what's possible - a high-end pixel with all of the latest hardware and software features to promote their OS and software. Driving advancement in hardware by others using android. But instead it seems like they're competing at all levels with their hardware and are trying to win at consumer-leve…

Google just sucks at this.

The Nexus and early Pixel eras have been a series of weirdly positioned and priced models year after year. Google didn't even bother trying to sell them in more than a handful countries.

Then Google switched to a pretty bad Exynos based SoC and consistently shipped underwhelming hardware at price points aligned with Apple... requiring absolutely insane discounts or promotion campaigns, even at launch. Can you imagine Apple giving you AirPods Pro or a Watch if you buy the next iPhone 18 on day 1?

We've seen things like the Pixel tablet that should have been sold at half its MSRP to stand even a small chance against the iPad.

And I won't even talk of the many hardware issues... my dad's Pixel 7a was fully reimbursed for 25% more money than he actually spent buying it.

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