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Re: Twitter is Pivoting

#11

Post by gojomo »

nemesisj wrote: post #2

I hate to be that (negative) guy, but I'm starting to get really tired of Dalton constantly pissing all over twitter. Particularly because he's competing against them. I'm an App.net backer, and I think it's cool what he's doing, but FFS, let someone else carry the water, if it even needs carrying at all. This all just feels really petty and whiney, particularly when you're already at work solving the problem.

This adds news (Chernin's involvement) and knowledgeable analysis in context.

And, for an insurgent platform/viewpoint to succeed, it needs tireless promotion. (Graphomania, even.)

Skip his blog posts if you don't like them, others find them valuable.

Re: Twitter is Pivoting

#13

Post by codewright »

gojomo wrote: post #11
nemesisj wrote: post #2

I hate to be that (negative) guy, but I'm starting to get really tired of Dalton constantly pissing all over twitter. Particularly because he's competing against them. I'm an App.net backer, and I think it's cool what he's doing, but FFS, let someone else carry the water, if it even needs carrying at all. This all just feels really petty and whiney, particularly when you're already at work solving the problem.

This adds news (Chernin's involvement) and knowledgeable analysis in context. And, for an insurgent platform/viewpoint to succeed, it needs tireless promotion. (Graphomania, even.) Skip his blog posts if you don't like them, others find them valuable.

>And, for an insurgent platform/viewpoint to succeed, it needs tireless promotion.

Then I need to ramp up my userscript for client-side filtering Hacker News.

Re: Twitter is Pivoting

#14

Post by pdenya »

nemesisj wrote: post #2

I hate to be that (negative) guy, but I'm starting to get really tired of Dalton constantly pissing all over twitter. Particularly because he's competing against them. I'm an App.net backer, and I think it's cool what he's doing, but FFS, let someone else carry the water, if it even needs carrying at all. This all just feels really petty and whiney, particularly when you're already at work solving the problem.

I'm halfway to where you are but at least he's not coming out and saying "THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD SWITCH TO APP.NET EVERYBODY" he's just commenting on twitters changes. I clicked this article knowing he was going to be bashing Twitter again but just for spending his time working on app.net he must have some perspective.

Re: Twitter is Pivoting

#15

Post by nemesisj »

gojomo wrote: post #11
nemesisj wrote: post #2

I hate to be that (negative) guy, but I'm starting to get really tired of Dalton constantly pissing all over twitter. Particularly because he's competing against them. I'm an App.net backer, and I think it's cool what he's doing, but FFS, let someone else carry the water, if it even needs carrying at all. This all just feels really petty and whiney, particularly when you're already at work solving the problem.

This adds news (Chernin's involvement) and knowledgeable analysis in context. And, for an insurgent platform/viewpoint to succeed, it needs tireless promotion. (Graphomania, even.) Skip his blog posts if you don't like them, others find them valuable.

Look, his post may be insightful and interesting, but the point is that if any other startup on here spent post after post publicly criticising their direct competitor, it would hopefully be viewed as a negative thing. Why is App.net any different? There are plenty of ways to promote your scrappy and noble insurgency without sticking it in the eye of your competitor.

Again, I think what app.net is doing is interesting and great, just not these types of blog posts.

Re: Twitter is Pivoting

#16

Post by swohns »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #8

Ok, third comment here, guess the previous two comments (memesisj and jamesmoss) pretty much define 'polarizing' :-) Dalton raises some interesting questions. What exactly is twitter ? And perhaps more importantly what does Twitter think it can become? The churn in API restrictions, usage and messages certainly can be confusing.

I don't see these options as mutually exclusive. How is consumption of information canceling out sharing information? Especially with the ability to email tweets now. This seems to run contrary to what Dalton is writing about.

My favorite twitter comment is that you don't have to tweet to use twitter. You can contribute to the news, and you can consume it, Twitter isn't pushing for people to use just pursue one.

Re: Twitter is Pivoting

#17

Post by aaronbrethorst »

codewright wrote: post #13
gojomo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This adds news (Chernin's involvement) and knowledgeable analysis in context. And, for an insurgent platform/viewpoint to succeed, it needs tireless promotion. (Graphomania, even.) Skip his blog posts if you don't like them, others find them valuable.

>And, for an insurgent platform/viewpoint to succeed, it needs tireless promotion. Then I need to ramp up my userscript for client-side filtering Hacker News.

https://github.com/aaronbrethorst/NoBitcoin

Re: Twitter is Pivoting

#18

Post by codewright »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #17
codewright wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>And, for an insurgent platform/viewpoint to succeed, it needs tireless promotion. Then I need to ramp up my userscript for client-side filtering Hacker News.

https://github.com/aaronbrethorst/NoBitcoin

Much appreciated but the "ramping up" refers to the need to add more content when stuff gets removed per page in this case.

Re: Twitter is Pivoting

#19

Post by Braasch »

nemesisj wrote: post #15
gojomo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This adds news (Chernin's involvement) and knowledgeable analysis in context. And, for an insurgent platform/viewpoint to succeed, it needs tireless promotion. (Graphomania, even.) Skip his blog posts if you don't like them, others find them valuable.

Look, his post may be insightful and interesting, but the point is that if any other startup on here spent post after post publicly criticising their direct competitor, it would hopefully be viewed as a negative thing. Why is App.net any different? There are plenty of ways to promote your scrappy and noble insurgency without sticking it in the eye of your competitor. Again, I think what app.net is doing is interestin…

>Look, his post may be insightful and interesting

>I think what app.net is doing is interesting and great, just not these types of blog posts.

Nice contradiction. And perspective from someone who knows what he's talking about as a result of building a competitor is invaluable insight and quite interesting to me.

I don't get why you think Dalton is doing this solely for promotional purposes, but hey, you're entitled to your opinion.

Oh, and in response to your previous post: plenty of people are "carrying the water" and are calling Twitter out on their bullshit.

Re: Twitter is Pivoting

#20

Post by EvanKelly »

nemesisj wrote: post #15
gojomo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This adds news (Chernin's involvement) and knowledgeable analysis in context. And, for an insurgent platform/viewpoint to succeed, it needs tireless promotion. (Graphomania, even.) Skip his blog posts if you don't like them, others find them valuable.

Look, his post may be insightful and interesting, but the point is that if any other startup on here spent post after post publicly criticising their direct competitor, it would hopefully be viewed as a negative thing. Why is App.net any different? There are plenty of ways to promote your scrappy and noble insurgency without sticking it in the eye of your competitor. Again, I think what app.net is doing is interestin…

DuckDuckGo publicly blogs about what they feel are the shortcomings of Google. I've seen similar feedback in the comments of the DDG articles.
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